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Most people seem to be giving their ranks on MVP voting citing only QBs. It’s hard to imagine that just a title over 10 years ago Brees’ 46 TDs wasn’t enough to win MVP.

I’m curious as to who the real MVP candidates are. QB production is down so I’m really gearing towards awarding it to a defensive player like Myles Garrett. I know some people have also cited CMC and Hill.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's gotta be Tyreek Hill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Who even is the front runner for MVP? Doesn’t feel like there’s one guy who’s been better than the rest this year

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They need to rename it to best player of the year award. That’s what it was always supposed to be, but people always over thought it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Have you guys heard of Brock Purdy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, as the award is named right now, a QB should always win it. The real solution is renaming the award to the Most Outstanding Player, in which case it would and should be a race between Myles Garrett and Tyreek Hill

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett or CMC.

If it has to go to a QB I think it's Stroud easily

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Purdy finishes strong he absolutely should win the MVP. He's destroying the league in almost every advanced stat.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Too often this award doesn’t feel like most total value but more like most popular. If we talked about players who are invaluable, they maybe all wouldn’t have the most eye shattering stats but their value is in literally just their on field presence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd have Myles Garrett or Tyreke Hill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wish it’d be Hill but just because he hits 2k I don’t think its enough.

I point to Kupp’s 2021 year and he wasn’t even a real contender then with a Triple Crown Year + YAC leader.

QB it is!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Division rivalry aside, Myles Garrett

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hurts is the starting QB for a 9-1 team that just beat the champions on the road.

That’s MVP shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We still have almost 2 months of regular season to play. The vast majority of opinions today will be invalid come January.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like stroud , hill , CMC , still have 7 games to go though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I disagree with the headline.

The QB is THE most important position in sports for a reason. The Bengals are done because Burrow is hurt...he wasn't having a great season due to a slow start but that kind of thing highlights how critical the position is. The Ravens have crumbled without Lamar when he got hurt the last 2 seasons and missed some games.

My own team's SB chances last season were ultimately ended in PHI as soon as Purdy's elbow was destroyed.

The moment a team's starting QB gets hurt..their season is finished unless for some weird reason you get a really really good backup...and even that lowers expectations.

I also disagree with the "No QB deserves MVP this year" narrative..

Lamar, Stroud and Purdy have played at an objectively high level and one of them deserves the award depending on what you prefer:

1.Lamar- affects defenses in ways others QBs cannot...

  1. Stroud- has probably elevated his team the most

  2. Purdy- by far the best per throw stats of any QB this season on par with some previous MVP seasons.

MVP is supposed to be the player a team has no shot to win without...and that is always gonna be the QB

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least for defense: DaRon Bland…guys got 6 INTs, 4 returned for TDs, through 10 games. Unreal.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Despite QBs mattering less this season, I would say so far the most valuable player single handedly elevating their team this year is without a doubt CJ Stroud lol.

Non QB is probably Garrett for me too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I say we go Mark Moseley and give it to a kicker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is no scenario where a player other than a QB should ever win MVP in today’s NFL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because we seem to elevate the opposing team every week

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It should be a non-qb this season actually. None of them are really setting the world on fire. What about Miles Garrett?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In a different timeline, Kirk and JJ aren't injured, the Vikings are 7-4, he is still dominating the league in tuddies and yards, and on course to be MVP.

And then we lose the wildcard game because of our kicker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Christian McCaffrey

  • #1 Rushing Yards
  • #2 Yards from Scrimmage
  • #1 TDs

Changed the identity of the 49er offense the moment he arrived, and has shown incredible durability and tenacity

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Myles Garrett, CMC, DaRon Bland, Tyreek.. all worthy candidates. Ain’t no fucking way Jalen Hurts and his million interceptions should win MVP.

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Fuck we took them for granted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

MVP is a joke award. That being said, if it weren't a QB popularity contest, I'd go with Garrett if he continues to play like a demon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta be Garrett then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean if stroud keeps playing the way he is then he should win it. Dude turned around a trash team and could potentially lead them to a division win and home playoff game in 1st year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

a QB shouldn’t win MVP this year

And yet they will

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have been converted to the Myles Garret for MVP camp, fight me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If Daron Bland breaks the NFL pick-6 record (Howell twice and Josh Allen still on the schedule), then he deserves to AT LEAST be in the conversation!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

CMC, Hill or Myles should win it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tyrek Hill or T.J. Watt

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

myles garrett has won at least 3 of their games on his own

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Recognizing QBs are having a down year, I legitimately believe the MVP could be CJ Stroud. The Texans were not supposed to be remotely competitive this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“A QB shouldn’t win MVP this year”

Love how that’s stated so matter of factly and also so wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dustin Hopkins for MVP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah it's still a QB. And probably between Lamar and Dak right now but anything could happen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think CJ Stroud is necessarily going to win as a rookie, but it's hard to overstate how valuable he's been to the Texans. I thought this team was still at least a year away from winning, but he has them doing it immediately. Take him off the Texans and how many wins do they have?

I know you said no QB but QB is always the most valuable position so it's hard to see anyone else making a case. CMC and Hill are great players, but their teams are better without them than the Texans are without Stroud or the Eagles are without Hurts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I dont think the QB with the best stats win it. Right now, that would be Purdy or Stroud overall. They wont give it to Stroud because he is a rookie, and Purdy won’t get it because some fans and critics dont even think he is top 10.

CMC or Hill could win. Don’t think they will ever give it to a defensive player unless he breaks the sack record by a lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The issue is there’s so many injuries this year that I can’t really argue a non QB winner. MAYBE McCaffery?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably CMC. I'm hoping it's Stroud though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AJ Brown should be in the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tyreek by a mile

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This could have been Jefferson’s year if he didn’t get hurt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Crazy Hill is going to destroy the receiving yard record and he's not even an afterthought at +3000

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They should just give to a kicker again. For shits and giggles

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