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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As we are replicating (with distortion of course) the fascist era from the end of WWI to the end of WW2, we have Trump providing the specter of the palmer raids of 1919-1920. I like watching bizarre alternate histories, I just wish this one wasn't real.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

God I wish I lived in the America he says we're currently in. If only the left was that powerful here.

[–] kent_eh 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The enemies of fascism are always both impossibly strong and extraordinarily weak, depending on the needs of the fascist propaganda.

It's #8 in Umberto Eco's famous list

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Trump may be even more extreme than last time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I hope everyone supporting nationalist politicians because the old days were better for them take some time out of their day to reflect on this, let WW1 and WW2 at least have the positive side of teaching us about what not to fall for as citizens.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If we can just deport all the MAGA to Florida and Texas they can go and create their Nazi playground and leave the rest of us alone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I'll call Bugs Bunny to deal with Florida; his methods have certainly proved effective in the past.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

As a native Floridian please no. There are some of us still fighting here. And with the recent immigration stuff there's a chance Florida will lean a little more blue this next election. I hate it though, my job is pretty inextricably tied to Florida, so it's a bummer since I'm super progressive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

With the recent malaria cases in both these states that sounds like a good idea

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Lemmy needs a tag on posts not to export them to federated instances and put the whole of US politics and culture wars behind it.

Meanwhile Rule 10:

A place for major news from around the world, excluding US-internal news.

One of the best things about the reddit migration to the fediverse is having a local tab full of wholesome local non-US content. It would be nice if we could clean up All a bit more. I would be totally fine if my home lemmy instance defederated from all US instances carrying their domestic politics

I don't think continually rage farming us is going to add anything of value. If a whole country wants to drive themselves insane with increasingly polarized and nonsensical crap they need a private space to do it away from the rest of us because it isn't healthy and I don't want to participate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are absolutely right, but this rule 10 thing, do you really think it applies? If Trump gets into power again and starts deporting people based on their political views, you dont think that will have repercussions on the rest of the world?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly. There some US-centred news that don't have their places here, but the US news that can impact the entire world should be posted here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Understandable, but this shit actually is going to affect the rest of the world, for reasons not the least of which being you all will likely see many U.S. refugees crossing your borders soon because of it. It's the same as any genocide, anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who are we to stop Florida, Arizona, and Texas from denying their god-given right to not accept welfare, social security, Medicare, and Obamacare mostly paid for by Democrat states?

It's damn patriotic of Republicans and I thank them for making their voting pool die younger.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

As an Arizonan, I would like to remind you that we are currently a blue state. I worked hard for that thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I doubt there is a socialist or a communist party that has an active membership in the US :) US is so far right , there is no left left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I don’t know about political parties, but there are definitely socialists and communists here. It’s a free country — people have all sorts of beliefs and politics here.

I vote for democrats because they’re not actively working to take my rights away, but I do not like them as they lean too far to the right. I have a feeling a lot of Americans are on the same boat as me. Everyone I know voted for Biden, but I don’t know anyone who actually likes him or what he stands for.

I lived in The Netherlands for a good portion of my early adulthood and I just wish we could be more like them in some ways. Holy shit it was so nice not to worry about the cost of seeing a doctor, and not feeling unsafe holding hands with my partner in public (am gay) and so on. Also knowing I would have weeks of paid time off every year was amazing. I haven’t had any actual time off work since I came home… 20 years ago.

A lot of Americans have called me a communist or socialist (many don’t seem to know the difference). I am definitely neither. I just want this country to be better for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

There's more than ten nationwide communist/socialist parties, plus a bunch of state-only parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_(U.S._politics)#Left-wing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Even our "socialists" are actually Centrists given an Overton Window that isn't shifted to a building several blocks east.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think the ownership class is wrong.

They have some comeuppance due.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

The Adventures of Gill... a Teen!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He knows he needs to be in headlines... I highly doubt he actually gives a shit, this is just a way for us to talk about him and a way to rile up his base...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If it's really a Nazi diatribe, then he only wants to deport the state-level socialists. The national ones can stay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If only we could just not parrot everything morons are up to, my morning coffee would be much more enjoyable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A great way to distract from his legal woes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's so friggin weird that people think Trump does stupid things as a "distraction".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Stochastic terrorism.

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