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[–] jmsy1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bundesliga is the most fan friendly league in the world. Not perfect, but the best.

[–] the_phet@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder how these relates to the population of each country.

Germany almost doubles in population to Spain, while having less teams at the top level. 36 Vs 42 teams.

[–] pompey606@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Honest question for the French fans here. Excuse my English ignorance, but is Rugby bigger than Football in France?

[–] joelobifan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Its because there are so many sleeping giants in the bundesliga 2

[–] BigReeceJames@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If you have stadiums big enough and tickets cheap enough, people will turn up and you'll get numbers like this.

The average cost of a season ticket in the Championship is £451, the average cost of a German second division season ticket is £178~

[–] MartianDuk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elversberg bigger than PSG

[–] 71648176362090001@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] saumah95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bigger than our "Landeshauptstadt" defo

[–] 71648176362090001@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Know your place, trash :D

[–] Conankun66@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

goes without saying really

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[–] MrVISKman@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm always suprised at the quality of lower league German stadiums

[–] maury587@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Spain's 2nd division has some insane stadiums as well, i bet most of the teams in spanish 2nd division are bigger than most stadiums in Portugal 1st division outside of the big 3, and i would bet 100€ the average attendance is bigger than in Portugal outside the big 3

[–] ogqozo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Portugal outside of Big 3" is really pretty small business lol. The 2nd tier of the Polish leauge also has more attendance than that, and Poland is among the European countries with fewest people going to football games per capita.

The "Big 3" is more than 60% of attendance of whole Primeira Liga.

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[–] Subbutton@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because those teams used to play in the BuLi

[–] MrVISKman@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I guess so but when you compare 2nd tiers from Spain and Germany their quality is so much better. Germany's 3rd tier also has great stadiums too, the only one that I can think of being great in our 3rd tier is Riazor and that's also because they used to be a great team.

[–] shockzz123@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are Deportivo doing all the way down there? The hell happened?

[–] Subbutton@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germans know how to build stuff

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[–] Sapaio@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the Championship also has big teams, Leicester and probably the biggest one is Leeds are there. Sheffield Wednesday is also a traditional club.

[–] battlecatquikdre@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Also Sunderland's Stadium is nice

[–] Cucumberino@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Malaga's La Rosaleda too this season I suppose, but that's an exception

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[–] Espantadimonis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany is a wealthy country

[–] sammy_kuffour@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tell that our conservative politicians, please

[–] BaldFraud99@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The 2006 WC was also very instrumental in that.

[–] lobo98089@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2006 is also a big part why some of those stadiums are now not in the Bundesliga anymore. A lot of Clubs taking on huge debt to pay for upgrades that couldn't really afford it.

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[–] CanadaEh97@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's great when after a major sporting even the stadiums can be used.

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[–] SwagBoyMcFeast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well I'm not surpried, fan culture is insane in Germany and with massive, classic Bundesliga clubs like Hamburg, Nurnberg, Hannover, Dusseldorf etc, the numbers are guaranteed to be high.

[–] saumah95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hannover and Düsseldorf??? mentioned but not us is crazy

[–] SwagBoyMcFeast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Etc, Kaiserslautern just didn't come to mind at the moment, I know you are a massive club

[–] 100th_meridian@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always been a fan of 1. FUCK since that UEFA Cup tie back in 92/93. Shame what's happened to your club (and ours) since those days.

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[–] Select-Stuff9716@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not mentioning Schalke which in fact is amongst the top ten clubs with the most members in the world is the real craziness

[–] SwagBoyMcFeast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's too many big clubs in 2.Bundesliga to remeber at one moment, okay?

[–] saumah95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Like I said no worries. We're absolutely shit rn

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[–] rrrook@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And all that although not one of your reps misses a chance to pronounce how devastating your relegation was „for the region“.

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[–] saumah95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Germany should thank us for Fritz and Ottmar, Eckel, Liebrich,Kohlmeyer our first World Cup won by Kaiserslautern :)

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[–] panserstrek@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Germany also has a significantly larger population than countries like England and Spain.

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[–] Adammmmski@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Wonder where the Championship ranks. Some big clubs in there currently.

[–] reddituser0912333@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Too busy farming

[–] HospitalHungry@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes the top 5 leagues

I mean, out stadiums are small af too. Paris' max amount is like 42k.

It helps that some very big clubs are there

[–] Wingiex@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No surprise, people don't care about football in France as much as say in Germany, Spain or Italy. It's getting more popular among those of immigrant descent in France, but not so much among the general population.

[–] RoVRossi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Germany is wealthy, has nice big stadiums. Also, Germany has 85m people, bigger cities, bigger supporter groups, bigger everything than the whole rest of Europe. It’s no surprise that they score big in this kind of statistics.

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[–] Pizzashillsmom@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I visited Karlsruhe during a Schalke game at it was filled with Schalke supporters haha.

[–] PseudoproAK@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Germany has a big and spread out population as well, which probably helps. If Paris had 10 football teams in Ligue 1 like London does in the Barcleys, their attandence could be a lot higher

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[–] ElMejorPinguino@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Average capacity in the 2. Bundesliga is 34 948, by the way.

[–] CommissionOk4384@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not surprised. Ive been living in Paris for a couple years now and even though I have so many friends that are huge football fans there isnt a big “going to the stadium” fan base. I’ve talked to friends and other people that have been living in Paris all their life and are fans of PSG and have never been to a game in their life. Even though there are specificities to this like the fact that its super expensive to go watch a game at the Parc des Princes I believe it also has to do with the fact that the culture of going to your team’s game just isnt as big here.

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