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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's complicated. This pretty clearly targeting our "progressive" sheriff who the governor believes was installed by George Soros (I'm not joking).

The state already sued and took her to court to make her drop the city's sanctuary policy that is a result of a federal consent decree. They lost in court, so they made this new law to try and force her instead.

It's been a wild few months

Then after all that we still had the 10 inmates who escaped after being let out of her overcrowded and underfunded jail by a jail employee. This is also being blamed on "progressive policies" (Even though the reason it was overcrowded was bc the governor established a permanent police force in the city and filled the jails with people who were pulled over for things like window tint level and then arrested on unrelated charges.)

Because they are state police, they have never been bound by city rules, and they can do whatever they want. They have already been working with ICE this whole time. The governor has even released an EO that brought on 5 state agencies to already work with ICE that ranges from the National Guard to the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (I'm not joking)

Still, he couldn't just leave the city law enforcement alone, bc he couldn't stand not having full control.

 

In final days of session, legislature advances Landry immigration agenda

SB15 criminalizes the failure of local officials – including sheriffs and other law enforcement officers – to cooperate with federal immigration agencies, with penalties of up to 10 years in prison.

Up to 10 years in prison if you refuse to blindly follow orders? Seems reasonable /s

It also criminalizes acts by everyday Louisiana residents deemed to obstruct or “thwart” federal immigration enforcement efforts. It passed 71-30.

"Thwart" immigration efforts seems like it could be very loosely interpreted to mean anything from intentionally or even unintentionally obstructing or delaying efforts, peacefully protesting or expressing dissent, potentially interpreted to punish immigration lawyers for doing their job.

Also, just pointing out the city of New Orleans was already on that DHS list of jurisdictions in violation of Trump's sanctuary policy

Feels like it would have been less passive aggressive to just @ the city within the actual text of the bill.

“The Orleans Parish Sheriff, who should be trying to get out from under the handcuffs of the consent decree, [is] using that as a shield to avoid the possible implications of refusing to cooperate with ICE,” Morris told committee members.

Also, love this argument (especially as we're watching riots in L.A. and the city of Glendale canceling it's own contract with ICE) bc it essentially seems to be saying take off those old handcuffs, and put on these new much more restrictive handcuffs.

 

SB15 criminalizes the failure of local officials – including sheriffs and other law enforcement officers – to cooperate with federal immigration agencies, with penalties of up to 10 years in prison.

Up to 10 years in prison if you refuse to blindly follow orders? Seems reasonable /s

It also criminalizes acts by everyday Louisiana residents deemed to obstruct or “thwart” federal immigration enforcement efforts. It passed 71-30.

"Thwart" immigration efforts seems like it could be very loosely interpreted to mean anything from intentionally or even unintentionally obstructing or delaying efforts, peacefully protesting or expressing dissent, potentially interpreted to punish immigration lawyers for doing their job.

Also, just pointing out the city of New Orleans was already on that DHS list of jurisdictions in violation of sanctuary policy

Feels like it would have been less passive aggressive to just @ the city within the actual text of the bill.

“The Orleans Parish Sheriff, who should be trying to get out from under the handcuffs of the consent decree, [is] using that as a shield to avoid the possible implications of refusing to cooperate with ICE,” Morris told committee members.

Also, love this argument (especially as we're watching riots in L.A. and the city of Glendale canceling it's own contract with ICE) bc it essentially seems to be saying take off those old handcuffs, and put on these new much more restrictive handcuffs.

 

SB15 criminalizes the failure of local officials – including sheriffs and other law enforcement officers – to cooperate with federal immigration agencies, with penalties of up to 10 years in prison.

Up to 10 years in prison if you refuse to blindly follow orders? Seems reasonable /s

It also criminalizes acts by everyday Louisiana residents deemed to obstruct or “thwart” federal immigration enforcement efforts. It passed 71-30.

"Thwart" immigration efforts seems like it could be very loosely interpreted to mean anything from intentionally or even unintentionally obstructing or delaying efforts, peacefully protesting or expressing dissent, potentially interpreted to punish immigration lawyers for doing their job.

Also, just pointing out the city of New Orleans was already on that DHS list of jurisdictions in violation of Trump's sanctuary policy

Feels like it would have been less passive aggressive to just @ the city within the actual text of the bill.

“The Orleans Parish Sheriff, who should be trying to get out from under the handcuffs of the consent decree, [is] using that as a shield to avoid the possible implications of refusing to cooperate with ICE,” Morris told committee members.

Also, love this argument (especially as we're watching riots in L.A. and the city of Glendale canceling it's own contract with ICE) bc it essentially seems to be saying take off those old handcuffs, and put on these new much more restrictive handcuffs.

Durr we luv smol gubmint and freedum 🖕

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk why I'm asking this, but I'm genuinely curious why you think reservations exist?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

No shit Sherlock

 

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/66472753

It's been so crazy that I forgot all about the DHS list of jurisdictions in violation of the Trump administration's policy on sanctuary cities according to his EO released on April 28th. Apparently they published it last week and immediately took it back down.

When the EO was released, I figured my own city would be on the list, and it was, along with 36 other jurisdictions.

So can't say for sure, but it definitely has me a little nervous that all the jurisdictions on that list could soon be facing what we're seeing play out in California. The mayor said, she believes what is happening in L.A. is a test run, and I agree with her 100%

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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/66472753

It's been so crazy that I forgot all about the DHS list of jurisdictions in violation of the Trump administration's policy on sanctuary cities according to his EO released on April 28th. Apparently they published it last week and immediately took it back down.

When the EO was released, I figured my own city would be on the list, and it was, along with 36 other ~~jurisdictions~~ states. There are hundreds of counties listed

So can't say for sure, but it definitely has me a little nervous that all the jurisdictions on that list could soon be facing what we're seeing play out in California. The mayor said, she believes what is happening in L.A. is a test run, and I agree with her 100%

 

Who controls the National Guard? The National Guard is a hybrid entity that serves both state and federal interests and often operates under state command and control, using state funding.

Sometimes, troops will be assigned by their state to serve federal missions, remaining under state command but using federal funding.

Generally, federal military forces are not allowed to carry out civilian law enforcement duties against U.S. citizens except in times of emergency.

When can the National Guard be deployed? An 18th-century wartime law called the Insurrection Act is the main legal mechanism that a president can use to activate the military or National Guard during times of rebellion or unrest. But President Donald Trump didn’t invoke the Insurrection Act on Saturday when deploying the National Guard to Los Angeles.

What about the National Guard in Texas? Back in February, Gov. Greg Abbott gave Texas Guard members authority to arrest and detain people for entering the U.S. illegally from Mexico under an agreement with the Trump administration that expands the military’s role in immigration enforcement.

 

Well good thing the U.S. economy is rock solid at the moment, and we have excess money to burn.

Otherwise we might start seeing bipartisan anger at a president and administration who have spent $134 million dollars to force a state government to do what the federal government says, while undoing previous federal orders regarding civil rights bc they were an unjust burden to states and a waste of the American tax payer dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I believe the most obvious is they benefit (or at least believe they will benefit) from that outcome.

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National Guard members and Marines, called to Los Angeles by President Trump to prevent violent protests, can otherwise only serve in support roles.

"If there's an insurrection, I would certainly invoke it. We will see," he said.

We have not even seen "actual military violence" at this point. Keep that in mind when you argue that it doesn't matter if this escalates further bc what else could Trump do, the answer is this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Except this is also how the "democracy" that is modern day Russia was created. Everything that's happened in the U.S. since ~2012 that has been driving us to the brink of collapse by furthering the divide between left and right has been eerily similar.

Psychological Inoculation and Astroturfing: Preparing for exploitation of U.S. secession movements

A lot of people don't know this, bc it's not exactly clear what they were doing there, but coincidentally the Heritage Foundation also seemed to play a role in the creation of the first free market in the earliest days of post-soviet Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is the beginning. He wants an excuse to declare martial law.

He's still holding back and being strategic at this point, once he establishes a permanent military branch to oversee California that's when shit really hits the fan.

Getting all blue states and jurisdictions to start withholding federal taxes until we have a federal government who is actually representing us again, is a much better plan than telling a bunch of civilians to go fight the military. You are literally sending people to be slaughtered and kick off a second civil war, but I'm pretty sure you're probably fully aware of that.

 

Cool...

This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.

Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Again where is the actual show of support from the rest of America? This should not be California's fight, it should be all of us fighting as America against authoritarianism.

Where are the people telling their local government they need to following the example Glendale just set for the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

When you're left with no other alternative, then yes. Why not try to form a coalition of Americans that will stand together against Trump before we dissolve into a second civil war where individual blue states are going against the entire U.S. government?

How about some support from other blue states and jurisdictions? Where are the calls for blue states senators and representatives to vocally stand with California, where are the mayors and city councils willing to follow Glendale's example?

Sending people into a suicide mission without actually backing them up, is like supporting a war you're not fighting in (yet). When it's your turn, you will hope that others will stand with you instead of remotely egging you on to be David against Goliath.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not arguing it's the core of science, I'm arguing it shouldn't be dismissed completely bc these people want to weaponize it.

Science should always include healthy skepticism and debate. If not, you've basically just reinvented religion.

If you've worked in science, there is a good chance you've met somebody like that. There are unfortunately many people that seem to have a pathological inability to acknowledge when they're wrong or accept that they made a mistake.

If you have worked in science and believe you've never encountered that attitude you're either very lucky or you're that guy.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Bruh, seriously...

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Yep, and it wasn't even the military, it was just a local police force. I believe they killed 11 people and around 5 children. The 40th anniversary just passed.

If a single police force using weapons from 40 years ago could do something like that without a second thought, I hope people consider what the outcome would realistically be today, when encouraging people in California to strap themselves and head into a suicide mission against police, federal agencies, national guard, military, Palantir, and private military companies like Blackwater under a president who has already told them "he who serves his country, commits no crime."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (25 children)

Frustrate and impede, just don't help them advance their agenda by giving them the physical escalation they're hoping for.

An "insurrection" under Trump will not be handled the way an actual insurrection was when Trump instigated it under Biden. This has been planned for a long time.

Richard Blumenthal Reveals Trump 'Martial Law' Fear

I hope more Americans at city and state levels will start joining cities like Glendale.

 

DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told Newsweek that the City of Glendale's decision was "deeply disturbing," and accused state officials of siding with criminals over public safety after unrest in Los Angeles.

Just so people are aware, this is the same rhetoric/same regurgitated talking points being used against "progressive" policies in blue cities within red states all over the country.

They are banking on an escalation of physical violence and confrontation that they will use as an excuse to establish a permanent federal and military force in California that will not be subject to any California state laws.

Why do I believe that? Because its how it happened in my own city to establish a permanent state police force that can't be regulated by any city or local ordinance.

They instigate and then argue that progressive policies have resulted in an emergency and chaos, that leaves them no choice but to step in and fix things by taking control.

They have been using takeovers of blue cities within red states as a testing ground for this kind of thing since Trump's first term.

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