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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The lack of quality control may the the only believable part.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Thanks for taking the time to come back and clarify your position in detail like that, I think I see where you're coming from here and I have to disagree with you. I think the trolley problem is still the best analogy and I'd go so far as to say some of the assumptions underpinning your view here are very dangerous.

Firstly, I would say voting is absolutely an irrevocable one time only choice from the simple fact that the past is immutable. Trump will always have been the president from 2016 - 2020 and now he's going to be the president for another term. No amount of voting in the future can ever change that. Roe v Wade is still overturned for example and the supreme court is still stacked as far as I understand.

Just ask Josseli Barnica's loved ones how easily the damage of some of Trump's decisions can be undone.

If someone thinks that the price is worth it for sending a message to the Democrats then that's up to them. Let's not be under any illusions though that we can simply change anything in the present day to undo history. That's why the trolley problem is the more apt analogy in my view because you must choose between two different bad outcomes irrevocably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Agreed there too, my friend, nobody is

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone who gets their house fire bombed for exposing corruption is deserving of respect in my book.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

I would like to be your friend please

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

What about an empty ceiling?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

LAN parties were always a great place to hang out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That's true but I didn't mean it as a choice of who you'd rather see killed, just that the system is set up in such a way that as a rational voter you are forced into a situation where you must act to prevent the worst outcome rather than voting for your interests and what you believe in.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Tariffs on oil and microchips, should make a nice dent in cost of living.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I see what you mean. I agree with that and in that sense DeepSeek is actually a really good thing because it gives some hope that you don't need insane amounts of money for a powerful model. Let's hope access and development doesn't get too concentrated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I disagree strongly, ChatGPT will gladly tell you all about the My Lai Massacre for example. Not to say it's perfect or completely uncensored but to say it's worse or the same...I just can't get there.

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Introduction

Firstly, although the tone of this post may be somewhat critical I want to say that I do appreciate the thought behind creating the bot and the work that has gone into it. The idea of being more aware of media bias in the news we consume is a good one and I commend the folks who actively took a step to try and advance that cause. However, I believe that unfortunately the current solution might have the opposite effect.

Suggestion

My suggestion is to keep the factuality and trustworthiness ratings of the bot as while they are still somewhat problematic, they can at least be more objectively assessed and sourced. The bias rating, however, has two pretty major problems as far as I can see.

Reason One - Inconsistent Definitions

Left and right do not have consistent definitions to everyone, particularly in different regions. Something considered left in the US for example might be considered centre or right in other parts of the world. This means that people's read of the bias rating of the bot may be inaccurate.

Reason Two - Opaque and Contradictory Bias Analysis

Secondly and the major issue I have, is that the bias rating does not seem to have a consistent methodology and I have seen troubling inconsistencies in the justification given for certain ratings. That means we are potentially being misinformed and having the opposite than intended effect of trying to accurately account for potential bias in the sources of our news.

Example - BBC

The example that I looked into was the bias rating for the BBC, which the bot describes as centre left. However, if we look at the justification for this rating it seems contradictory, with most evidence pointing to it leaning right:

According to New Statesman's research, examining the impartiality of the BBC's reporting shows that they lean right certain areas, such as business, immigration, and religion...

...

When reporting general news, the BBC always sources its information and uses minimal loaded words in headlines...

Sounds like the BBC should be rated as centre right based on this analysis. However, the media bias folks go on to say this:

When it comes to reporting on the USA and, in particular, former President Donald Trump, there is a negative tone directed at Trump and his policies.

This point, referencing a single article which is debatably overly negative, seems to be sufficient justification for them to rate the whole source as left leaning.

If you check the reasoning for the rating, however, it mentions nothing about this anti Trump bias at all, instead stating:

Overall, we rate the BBC Left-Center biased based on story selection that slightly favors the left.

This assertion is not justified in any way in the analysis they have provided.

Conclusion

I understand that disagreeing with one particular rating isn't necessarily worthy of action in it's own right, but I think this example highlights a more fundamental problem with the rating system as a whole. If there is not a reasonable and consistent methodology followed, then the rating system itself is highly subject to individual biases. Therefore, I believe that by including this rating in all the news posts, we are lending credibility to an organisation which unfortunately does not seem to have earned it.

Thanks for taking the time to read my suggestion and I hope nobody takes this as an attack of any kind. This is a difficult problem and I appreciate any effort to solve it, I actually was feeling quite positive about the bot until I looked into how the ratings were actually done.

EDIT: Also, I hope this is the right community to provide this feedback. It seems the bot has blocked me so I'm not able to check the support link that it provides.

 

Back in the day, you had to be willing to do it yourself.

 

I thought this was a nice 10 minute recap of what the replication layer stuff is, the plans we know about from way back and where we're at now.

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