What?

I will be holding the tenth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time we covered defining and instantiating structs with section 1 of chapter 5, "Using Structs to Structure Related Data". We'll be continuing with section 2, where we'll be writing some code!

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/6703544

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-05-20). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

EDIT: here's the recording https://youtu.be/s0U7KBXxL8g

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

Ownership is finally over! Ok, I know we're going to be seeing more of it throughout the rest of the book, but at least it should always be in the context of "doing" something else/useful. For example, grouping bits of related data into structs.

What?

I will be holding the ninth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

This week we begin chapter 5 "Using Structs to Structure Related Data"!

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/6557213

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-05-13). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

Edit: here's the link to the recording https://youtu.be/h4l5Ksd5w7E

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

What?

I will be holding the eighth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

This week we finish chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership" by reading through the "Ownership Recap (4.5).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/6353244

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-05-06). That's around 4 hours after this post is created. If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

EDIT: here's the recording: https://youtu.be/3w7m5GM7eV8

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

This might be a more interesting dive into Rust for those with a fair amount of existing c and/or c++.

I tried it out myself a few years ago. I had fun reliving the nightmare of implementing doubly-linked lists in C back in school! I never made it to the end of the book, though; it got wayyyy more complex around halfway than I could process at the time.

Hi all! So much happening in my personal life these past 2 weeks that I couldn't put aside the time or energy to host these sessions. Things are calming down a bit (plus I've missed doing the sessions), and so I'm happy to announce the date for the next session.

What?

I will be holding the seventh of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

This week we will be continuing chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership". Last session we finished "Fixing Ownership Errors" (4.3). We will thus start from the beginning of "The Slice Type" (4.4).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5991675

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-04-29). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now). Edit: here's the recording: https://youtu.be/OeyWDSJ-Y5E

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

The closer I look, the more depressed I get.

First of all, the entire thing feels off. Quoting one commenter:

So this seems to be some kind of universal package manager where most of the content is AI generated and it's all tied into some kind of reverse bug bounty thing thing that also has crypto built in for some reason? I feel like we need a new OSS license that excludes stuff like this. Imagine AI-generated curl | bash installers 🤮

The bug bounty thing in question apparently being tea.xyz. From what I can tell, the only things actually being AI-generated are descriptions and logos for packages as an experimental web frontend for the registry, not package contents nor build/distribution instructions (thank god).

Apparently pkgx (the package manager in question) is being built by the person who created brew. I leave it up to the reader's sensibilities to decide whether this is a good or bad omen for the project itself.

Now we get to the actual sneer-worthy content (in my view): the comments given by a certain user for whom it seems PKGX is the best thing since sliced bread, and that any criticism of using AI for the project's hosted content is just and who thinks we should all change our preferences and habits to accommodate this

PKGX didn't (and still doesn't) have a description and icon/logo field. However, from beginning (since when it was tea), it had a large number of packages (more than 1200 now). So, it would have been hard to write descriptions and add images to every single package. There's more than just adding packages to the pantry. PKGX Pantry is, unlike most registries, a fully-automated one. But upstreams often change their build methods, or do things that break packaging. So, some areas like a webpage for all packages get left out (it was added a lot later). Now, it needed images and descriptions. Updating descriptions and images for every single package wouldn't be that good. So, AI-based image and description generation might be the easiest and probably also the best for everyone approach. Additionally, the hardwork of developers working on this project and every Open-Source project should be appreciated.

I got whiplash from the speed at which they pivot from arguing "it would have been hard for a human to write all these descriptions" to "the hardwork of developers working on this projet [...] should be appreciated". So it's "hard" work that justifies letting people deal with spicy autocomplete in the product itself, but less hard than copying the descriptions that many of these projects make publicly available regardless??? Not to mention the packaged software probably has some descriptions that took time and effort to make, that this thing just disregards in favor of having Stochastic Polly guess what flavor of cracker it's about to feed you.

When others push back against AI-anything being so heavily involved in this package registry project, we get the next pearl of wisdom (emphasis mine):

But personally I think, a combination of both AI and human would be the best. Instead of AI directly writing, we can maybe make it do PR (for which, we'll need to add a description field). The PR can be reviewed. And if it's not correct, can also be corrected. That's just my opinion.

Surely the task of reviewing something written by an AI that can't be blindly trusted, a task that basically requires you to know what said AI is "supposed" to write in the first place to be able to trust its outpu, is bound to always be simpler and result in better work than if you sat down and wrote the thing yourself.

Icing on the cake, the displayed profile name for the above comment's author is rustdevbtw. Truly hitting as many of the "tech shitshow" bingo squares as we can! (no shade intended towards rust itself, I really like the language, I just thinking playing into cliques like this is not great).

My original post title was going to be something a bit more sensational like "Bored of dealing with actual human package maintainers? Want to get in on that AI craze? Use an LLM to generate descriptions for curl-piped-to-bash installations scraped from the web!" but in doing my due diligence I see the actual repo owner/maintainer shows up and is infinitely more reassuring with their comments, and imo shows a good level of responsibility in cleaning up the mess that spawned from this comments section on that github issue.

Hi all!

What?

I will be holding the sixth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

This week, we will be continuing chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership". Last week we finished "References and Borrowing" (4.2). We will thus start from the beginning of "Fixing Ownership Errors" (4.3).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5871866

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+1 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-04-15). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now). Edit: here's the recording: https://youtu.be/7XcluwdxBHQ

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

Hi all! I had to cancel last week's session at the last minute, so this week we'll just be covering what we would have covered, then.

(recap of the session info for completeness' sake:)

What?

I will be holding the fifth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements). This week, we will be continuing chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership".

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5452538

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+1 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-04-08). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now). Edit: the recording is now uploaded on youtube: https://youtu.be/zueZGhlkiyE

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

Edit: I'm currently feeling too unwell to host the reading club this evening.

Hi all!

What?

I will be holding the fifth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements). This week, we will be continuing chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership".

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5452538

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+1 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-04-01). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

Hi all!

What?

I will be holding the fourth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements). This week, we will be starting chapter 4: "Understanding Ownership".

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5278834

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+1 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-03-25). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now). Edit: the recording can be found at the following link: https://youtu.be/YmMreNK3fcw.

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

The interactive quizzes have started getting more interesting! Unfortunately, we're still on a decent delay from when I'm speaking to when I see people's comments appear in chat, so we will most likely continue to work through them in a more disjointed manner than the rest of the material.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

Hi all!

What?

I will be holding the third of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements). This week, we will be continuing (and hopefully concluding) chapter 3: "Common Programming Concepts". Last session covered sections 3.1 and 3.2; this session will start at section 3.3 (Functions).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/5036425

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+1 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-03-18). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time as that one was.

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

Edit: the session recording is available at the following link: https://youtu.be/v5b6UIDZQ5A

I will have on-screen:

• the BU online version of The Book
• a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
• some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
• the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the chapter, both reading aloud the literal chapter text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

The interactive quizzes have started getting more interesting! Unfortunately, we're still on a decent delay from when I'm speaking to when I see people's comments appear in chat, so we will most likely continue to work through them in a more disjointed manner than the rest of the material.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.