MiscreantMouse

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, ok dude. I never said he was trying to force his religion into anything, you're just making stuff up. I supported the OPs statement that bigotry against the wrong religions was the motivator here, not high-minded ideals about the separation of church and state, and I think that's been substantiated by the evidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy moving goalposts batman!

OP:

Apparently that’s not what he’s standing up for. They’re not the right religion. When Republicans make decisions, [that seem] irrational or against their normal behavior. Always assume there’s bigotry tied to it.

In your first response you wrote:

Not saying you’re wrong, but the article gives absolutely no evidence that this is the case.

So I provided a press release quoting the AG's anti-muslim bigotry as evidence.

Your response:

This doesn’t really show his preference for any other religion, though. In fact, he specifically used the word “compelled” when talking about Catholicism.

So I provided further evidence of his religious preferences.

Your response:

So what if he only wants reading proficiency so kids “can read the bible at home with their family.”? Bigotry aside, he’s doing what he’s supposed to be doing.

I indicated that the point in the post you originally responded to is pretty well supported by the evidence...

Your response:

So? He’s not trying to jam that religion into classrooms.

I'm done, please keep better track of your point in the future

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The language he uses definitely shows a preference for a specific religion. He's clearly keeping his religion out of school only because it would allow the religions he doesn't like in too, which is the entire point of the post you first responded to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I mean, he's a protestant evangelical, so he's not a big fan of catholicism, but alongside his fearmongering about muslims, he definitely shows plenty of preference for his particular religion. Here's another quote from the press release:

"I would prefer we focus on reading proficiency so they can read the Bible at home with their family. That’s where religion is best taught: in homes and in churches, with the loving guidance of parents and pastors"

I'm certainly glad he's fighting these religious charter schools, for whatever reason, but I think it's silly to pretend his motivations are anything but bigotry and bias toward his favorite sect.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

So, the authors of the article irresponsibly chose not to include this guy's very public extremist rhetoric, but here's a quote directly from the press release:

"Today, Oklahomans are being compelled to fund Catholicism. Because of the legal precedent created by the Board’s actions, tomorrow we may be forced to fund radical Muslim teachings like Sharia law. In fact, Governor Stitt has already indicated that he would welcome a Muslim charter school funded by our tax dollars. That is a gross violation of our religious liberty. "

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wow, that must have been a big surprise to all the slaves.

it pretty obviously meant the rights of white male landowners, in context, historically

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is why trans girls need to have completely blocked testosterone, usually for a full 2 years, before any kind of competition.

They literally have less testosterone than the cis girls.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Cutting kids off from social media is all about cutting them off from outside information and support. We desperately need a bill of rights for kids, it's tragic how many people are fine with treating them like property.

Many abusive parents already control all of their kids' time outside of school, and for some, the only place to find understanding & support is in forums like r/raisedbynarcissists or LGBT spaces.

Like adults, kids are informed by social media, and if we want to improve their mental health we need to actually address the problems they learn about there, instead of simply preventing them from learning about the real world.

Things like our unwavering march toward an unlivable climate, the malign growth of oppressive, theocratic, authoritarian movements in many governments around the world, the crushing inequitable grind of capitalist culture, or just the ignorant / abusive / bigoted mindset of many fellow citizens are all bad for anyone's mental health, but they need to be understood accurately to be addressed.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Also, if the next president is republican, then Tuberville's military blockade will evaporate, and a big chunk of the military leadership will be immediately filled with people willing to support a republican coup.

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