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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What doesn't get mentioned about the clinical trials is that some of the men were infertile for a few years after they stopped taking birth control and in one case, he was rendered permanently infertile. Some cases resulted in low sperm count as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They were not giving advice. they were mocking men and dismissing male loneliness as a non-issue.

I don't know the solution for loneliness specifically, but hatred towards men for being virgins or being unsuccessful with women will only exacerbate the issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Yeah, that's why they've latched on to toxic masculinity, that way they can say that discrimination faced by men is actually misogyny and continue saying misandry doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Of course, though I would apply those expectations on everybody. I meant expectations based on gender such as providing, protecting, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Expecting men to behave a certain way and shaming them for not doing so is misandry. The same way shaming women who don’t want to be housewives is misogyny.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (36 children)

"society expects men to be fearless and brave" is misandry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, this is true in my experience. Men are still expected to provide and protect.

When it comes to dating, the common sentiment now is that the one asking should be the one to pay. We are still traditional when it comes so initiating so it usually falls on the man having to pay anyway. What feminists say they want, and women actually want are not the same. In my experience, the vast majority of women I know expect their husbands to provide for them even if they're earning money themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, the counterpart feminists will typically use is internalised misogyny. They never use toxic femininity and usually get angry if someone mentions it, which says they are completely aware of the victim blaming nature of the term. They believe that sexism against men actually roots from misogyny, hence their reluctance with terms like misandry or internalised misandry. Agency plays a big role in this as well, men are thought to have complete control over their lives whereas women are thought to have little to no agency.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree, seems like a concern trolling.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20230720051219/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/20/abused-partners-who-kill-lighter-sentences-new-sallys-law/

Sally's law is being introduced in the UK, which would make it so that people who murder their alleged abuser may be given lighter sentencing.

Sally's Law is named after Sally Challen who admitted to killing her husband. She was tracking his movements, checking his phone, believing he was cheating on her and later said: "If I can't have him, no-one can." Challen was initially ordered to serve a minimum term of 22 years in jail. Jurors were told she attacked the retired businessman in August 2010, as he ate lunch at the kitchen table of their former marital home, using a hammer she had brought in her handbag. Keep in mind that she was not trapped in a relationship with this man and they had separated in 2009 and she begged to reconcile with him in 2010.

Her legal team succesfully appealed her sentence in 2019 on the basis of diminished responsibility. She received 14 years for manslaughter but walked free due to time served.

My gut tells me that murderers like Sally who admitted to killing her husband due to her insecurities will take advantage of this law, and that this won't be applied to male victims of abuse.

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