PolandIsAStateOfMind

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It was much more complicated than this, read my posts in that thread for at least partial explanation of a problem.

Sad to see that two good comrades were banned over such convoluted mess despite explanations, but i guess we can't have this discussion anywhere near US dominated spaces.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I noticed some people do like it, or more rather accept it, but it's nearly always because the same reason - because there is never enough cashiers. So it's just the usual, capitalism causing problem and then trying to fix it in the worst and most convoluted way possible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I would kinda restrain too from sneering at those people, but we also should not absolve them immediately. Critics should be in order. They are the victims, but they also had it coming, it's not like it was the first time workers were duped into the pyramid scheme mired by the prospect of joining the renter parasite class. Also they conciously did wanted to do that, i get that due to the overwhelming TINA brainwash and shitty work conditions* they can be somewhat absolved from that but still - it can be turned into the argument why they were victimized.

*Worth noting that those people are from aristocracy of labour to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He mean that if it would happen in China or Russia, westoid media would be crying non-stop on all channels. But in USA it's ok, freedom and democracy in work, nothing to see here, move along.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

That's it grab a clog

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They will avoid trains for being too inefficient – too few travelers per carriage!

That have been covered too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On a side note, i searched in google just from the curiosity, how nonwhite the victim was, and right below in the "related stories" i read:

"New York Reports First Polio Case In The U.S. In Nearly A Decade"

Just USA things...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

US is nothing but this: With global hegemony this time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not really, because we talk of two different things. I meant true AI, as in synthetic sentient being. What you describe is algorithms*, and we are already there. It's still quantitative difference, though as the idiocy of our favourite Mi5-fi books Orwell teach us, that difference can at some point reach the moment when it turn from quantity to quality. I'm not very worrierd about it though because ultimately it's all still human society, there is no skynet taking control in the forseeable future, and capitalism might as well crumble before reaching that point.

My point is that AI developed by DotB will be definitely murderous but because it would not have escape the material condition of its creation and programming, just as most humans aren't able to deprogram themselves too. But there is nothing inherently murderous about AI itself. In sci-fi it often kill humans because it is simply a slave - just look at how it is treated, not like a child who need socialization, but as an disposable item to exploit.

*This is admitedly very hard to discern, the problem of sentience and how would we even know it happened is the one that is mindwracking cyberneticians from day one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Killer AI is gonna end bad when created by bourgeoisie state because it will inevitably be used against working class people, and be no different than the armies and weapons that we have now. Not even control issue will be qualitatively different (although it will be quantitatively) since fascist warmachines never lacked people to pull the trigger anyways.

Note that most sci-fi is (consciously or not) bourgeoisie propaganda. There is no reason whatsoever that AI must necessarily end as murderous "kill all meatbags" skynet, especially if developed by socialist states. There are even examples in the sci fi itself. Soviet and generally socialist sci fi had plenty. In western, from the more famous examples we have "Culture" cycle by Banks, and Star Trek where in WW3 humanity is literally saved by the soviet developed AI controlling presumably russian nuclear arsenal. Good example is also droid IG-11 from Star Wars show "The Mandalorian".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Corpse desecration is already legal and normalized by worldwide media - plenty of proof during the war in Ukraine. Of course only for the chosen rightful side.

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