School_Lunch

I'm not saying that the stock market will end. I'm saying that we will never be in as good of a position ever again. The post ww2 world order is being rewriten right now. We were at the top because we were more or less trustworthy and had significant influence throughout the world. We didn't have much competition. Now that no one trusts us and our influence is being dismantled our trading partners will seek out our competitors or start their own industry creating even more competition. I hope I'm wrong, but i just don't see how we will ever be trusted again.

Why would you think stocks will go back up? The tariffs have proven that we are an unreliable trading partner, and countries are starting to look elsewhere. In addition, the outrage from abandoning our allies has caused a large part of the world to boycott our companies. I don't see how things could possibly go back to what they were.

It's all because of propaganda. They live in an entirely different world that is not reality. I'm surrounded by conservative voters where I live and most of them say "I haven't heard about that" whenever I mention a new outrage that's in the news that I see. I think it's their way of saying "I don't believe you".

When I talked to a couple of them about the zelensky oval office fiasco one response was "well I heard that zelensky called Vance a bitch in the meeting". I pointed out that he was lied to and that the whole thing was recorded and that never happened, but I would bet money that they still believe that lie over me. Another response was the Russian propaganda that zelensky is a dictator. There is no reasoning with them. They don't care about what reality is. They only believe in what makes them feel good and feeds their pride and ego. I've tried having rational discussions, but it always ends with them saying "I can't articulate why you're wrong, but I disagree with you". If you can't articulate something maybe that means you don't understand it enough and should reevaluate your conclusions, but they won't because it would hurt their pride. God damnit I'm am so far beyond frustrated with them.

Just change they name of it so that they would have to be specific about the policies they demand be ended instead of just saying "D.E.I. bad".

And if that happens there will be a civil war.

Same with the oval office. They were saying zelensky was disrespectful. When? I watched the whole thing and was insanely impressed by his restraint. Everyone who does even the smallest favor for Vance should harass him about being thankful. His behavior was absolutely disgusting.

I've heard this so many times when talking to my conservative relatives. Why do they care so much about what other people do? If they want to sit and do nothing, how is that a bad thing? Why do they think they have the authority to dictate how other people live? It might even be a good thing if more people sat and did nothing. There are too many people out there doing damage to the world that it would be an improvement if they stopped. They put so much emphasis on being productive, which is good, but I don't care if you're not productive as long as you're not destructive.

Yeah it took me a while to realize that the lack of excitement or desire I feel for just about everything is likely a symptom of depression. The bigger problem is I don't want to change and wouldn't know how to anyway. How do you make yourself want something... anything.

So where are all the western liberal democracies at? Europe? Canada? Please interfere with our elections now.

Forget all the nations and their interests. It all boils down to east vs west where the west represents liberal democracy and the east represents authoritarianism. How or why people keep siding with the east is something I have tried but will never understand.

If the axis won they would've ended up fighting amongst themselves. Their ideology requires scapegoats, and they will always find them. The ideology itself is counter to peace. We had 80 years of peace because we pushed it to the fringes, but now that it's resurging I feel like I'm surrounded by people who grew up in a different world with a different history.

Then where have you been. It's likely the biggest reason she lost. A whole bunch of people decided not to vote because they blamed Biden for Gaza. When told that Trump would be worse the response was always that it can't get any worse. I submit that US occupation of Gaza is worse...