SimulatedLiberalism

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

To clarify, I should have said the animals are less viable for meat production, not that there is some “self termination” gene.

https://archive.ph/TKZwr

Chinese breeders have long tried to create local varieties with bloodlines available in-country. Breeding from imported third- or fourth-generation chickens is a bad solution: their genes are less desirable than those of their elite grandparents, making them a poor starting-point for a new variety. In September the State Council, China’s cabinet, issued a paper on livestock-rearing that set self-sufficiency in poultry as a goal, calling meat-chicken breeding a priority. Big foreign firms have resisted appeals from officials to send second-generation stock to China. A poultry firm with 10% of the domestic market, Fujian Sunner, says it has bred all-Chinese broilers: their performance is a source of some debate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

98% of pork in China is from foreign breeds of pig raised in China or from meat/adult pigs? If it's the former then a blockade is not going to suddenly kill all the pigs inside China.

They won’t die but they have been genetically cross-bred to degrade over 1-2 generations, which means in 4-8 years the pigs will no longer be viable.

Capitalists are not stupid. When you purchase pigs, they don’t sell you their pedigrees, which are kept in highly secured facilities. They sell you the pigs that have been deliberately cross-bred to the point where they can control the rate of its degradation such that it can no longer produce meat at quality and quantity after a while.

The whole point is to force you to keep coming back and buy from them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

98% of pork in China are foreign breeds. This is a serious issue, since China comprises about half of the world’s pork consumption. If there really is a sanctions on food import for China, there will be a massive plunge in living standards in China and they might actually start a war over it. This is why I don’t think even the US dares to think about sanctioning food.

Also, 18 months is a relatively short time scale for a war between two giant economies. The war in Ukraine has been going on for 18 months now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A lot of people don’t understand that this is the ultimate clash between finance capitalism and industrial capitalism.

The US truly and genuinely believe that they can defeat China (industrial capitalism) simply by wielding the power of finance. The depth and liquidity of dollar, the all-pervasive global financial institutions rooted in the dollar regime, are all extremely powerful tools to control the world’s economy. The US doesn’t need to produce anything, it controls how other countries gain access to commodities, goods and services through financial institutions and intellectual property rights, food through the World Bank and credit through the IMF. They’re going to flood the foreign sector with trillions of dollars this fall and there is nothing you can do to stop that deluge of liquid dollar from entering the world’s economy.

On the other hand, China genuinely believes that the sheer power of industrial capital can defeat the hyper-financialized and de-industrialized US empire. After all, people survive on real goods and services, and there is a lot of leverage to be gained simply by being a manufacturing giant. Nevertheless, China remains a net exporter country (using your labor to produce goods and services for others to consume and enjoy) while the US is a net importer country (imagine being able to get free lunches everywhere simply by writing an IOU on a blank piece of paper and everyone would fight and die for the pieces of paper you carry). At the same time, China is still deeply dependent on imported food to feed its 1.4 trillion population. No small task.

The fact is we don’t know who will win out. Some say finance is the ultimate weapon to wield, others say industry is what matters. Only time will tell, provided we haven’t annihilated the world before then.

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