Vreyan31

I feel like today is my first day but I made a serious attempt to move here when that happened. I just couldn't get the apps to work on my android -- I kept having to make new accounts when the one I'd set up would suddenly no longer log in.

But today things seem to be working beautifully!

Ohhhh thank goodness.

Ok, then it's just algorithm weirdness that I was shown the lower-voted post first. Phew!!

Oh damn. That makes a lot of sense.

All of your responses are non-sequitors to my points and your initial argument.

1. I googled if Gaza has refugee camps that are safe from Israeli attack, because that is counter to 15mo of news. Do you have a source? That is somehow more credible than dozens of international news articles and experts saying "no where in Gaza is safe"? Story after story of Gazans following evacuation routes directed by the IDF that the IDF then attack.

2. For the sake of argument, let's say that there are refugee camps that are safe. As you say - there are millions of Gazans. They all need to be safe. They all need access to safety because they are human beings.

3. What is your point about '100,000 Gazans safe in other countries'? I think you mean that there are 'enough' outside that it is 'ok' to exterminate the ones still trapped in Gaza because their 'lineage' is preserved.

Humans are not a variety of carrot. We don't say it's ok to kill some percentage of a people just as long as we don't kill them all. Hitler could have said it was ok to kill all the Jews in Europe because there are 'enough' in the US. It would still have been wrong to kill any Jews in Europe for being Jewish, just as it is wrong for Israel to attack Palestinian civilians for being Palestinian.

Every person has a right to their own individual life that should not be taken by any state because they are the wrong ethnicity in the wrong place. Genocide is wrong at the scale of individual people.

That is the heart of human rights, and you misunderstand that at your own peril.

"The Gazans should topple Hamas" idea is tantamount to the old "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" idea. Gazans do not even have homes, or food, do you think they have any other internal structure they can pull on to coordinate anything?

Do you know who has kept Hamas in power? Who has refused any deal that involves any other ready group like the PA from taking the reigns? Who would absolutely kill any upstart organization? Israel.

At this point, Hamas is a puppet boogie man that conservative Israelis have to prop up because Hamas is their "slaughter Gazans for free" card.

Uhhh... (Checks history)

Europe actually appears to have been quite involved in the creation of the current state of Israel, and by that token, the stateless position of the Palestinians.

The state of the land, which is the cause of the war, is actually very much due to European decisions.

I feel like these scientists need to keep their mouths shut.

If the Trump admin finds out about this, the next executive order will be something that requires CFCs to be put back into American appliances and aerosols because he hates any accomplishment academics have ever had.

Ok, so this is kind of pathetic, but my main account was banned over a week ago but I am attached to my subreddits enough that I kept browsing. You can totally navigate your subreddits, you just can't comment. They even let you up/down vote though I doubt it actually gets counted.

Anyway - they can totally still serve you ads from a banned account if you are a fool like me.

So this place isn't overrun by bots. Awesome. As someone new here, are there fewer bots bc it's a smaller audience, or are there actually protections against bots?

There is no need to swing Trump voters over.

There are more citizens who did not vote at all who can be engaged with and energized - because these policies are going to fuck them too.