Zima

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

at least the way a socialist teacher taught me in primary school (and i don't completely agree with him but it's a good charactherization) you have desirable values of freedom and equality and they are in conflict. again I don't necesarrily agree with that and it boils down to the fact that when equality is implemented is always by averaging down everyone which is at the expense of freedom. anyways so supposedly you have capitalism as a system that places freedom above equality and communism as a system that places equality above freedom. so it's not really about good and bad but a conflict of virtues.

it's completely besides the point but i do rank freedom slightly above equality. in reality i would like to ensure some minimum level of support for everyone , i think that should be a pretty low level of support. just the bare minimun e.g. ensured education and equal chance at success at life, and health care depending on the actual amount of resources that can be allocated to it, nothing unrealistic but just the minimum to live without suffering, including other stuff like food and clothing and shelther as well. and then to have the freedom so that if anyone wants more than the minimum they should work for it. I'm sure that the people that wanted to work would be able to produce enough value to provide that minimum life support for everyone. so about 80% freedom and 20% equality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

sure racism is bad except for the races you disapprove of...

like i said, if you start going back on my comment history to downvote stalk me dont be surprised if i do the same to you in response. you will probably deny it but FaceDeer had pointed this out already in this thread. i have made this clear a few times already but I get why you pretend to not understand, just like you keep saying i am complaing about it when i have never done and i'm just complaining about the alt account..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You are very toxic and your interactions with others show you are following a playbook of smearing and characther assasination, I'm just responding so that no one else takes you seriously.

I would not be surprised if you actually are racist since you accuse everyone of that when you realize they are not radicals like you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The issue is the alt account that was created to harrass me. I know there are legitimate accounts downvote stalking me and I don't have a problem with that. I actually see it as a good thing since you can see what those other accounts are actually saying so it shows they are hypocrites and/or acting in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is there a point to your question?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I concede the point. I should have said they already paid reparations with those acts of self sacrifice. which is the closest they can get to making things right. at least it seems like a much bigger sacrifice than a payment in cash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get that my comment was too brief so it can be misunderstood, and gives more room when someone wants to distort it. i ellaborated on it here below but in short I was talking about all the people that actually sailed to africa and went to war with pirates and africans that wouldn't stop ensalving their neighbors. this took many years. a lot of money and many european lives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You keep trying to inverse/distort my claims. What is this fabrication about debt peonage? How does it relate to my actual statement?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don’t think it’s an inevitable result. As we get better at handling complex systems we might have a chance at a more efficient planned economy (that would still have issues but so does capitalism) we are not there yet. I do think that capitalism is the best system we can currently use. It doesn’t mean it’s not flawed

I don’t think that my opinion is about how relevant I think the economic calculation problem is or worker productivity. It’s the famines that follow its implementation that i find “relevant”.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. Even a communal style of life works at small scales. But not at civilization scale. This is accepted and studied. And in particular the studies focus on the effects of the size of the group. As the groups grow larger the free riders appear. But I think what’s worse is that even if they didn’t have that problem they would still face the economic calculation problem and end up producing the wrong things instead.

edit: I should add that I think i would personally love to live in some small community in that sort of shared community setting even though I'm "white collar high earner".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The discussion is public so it’s plain to anyone that this is how you classify anyone that doesn’t have your views. So your bullshit accusations just means “you don’t agree with me and you have arguments I don’t like”. You forgot to call me a fascist.

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