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Long-awaited DNA analysis proves man Ziegler innocent in 1975 murders, lawyers say in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thank you for this extra context. I already thought what was mentioned about the Valium was more egregious than the denied DNA testing. Realistically, it probably should have been declared a mistrial.

That said, there is very significant evidence that this guy did actually commit the murders. He certainly shouldn't have been denied DNA testing when requested decades later and I don't think the death penalty is an appropriate thing in society generally, but some of the details are very difficult to find another realistic theory to back.

The 58-year-old handyman who had been working for the in-laws for 20 years said Zeigler pointed a gun in his face when the two of them arrived at the store and tried to fire it several times but the gun jammed. That guy ended up getting the gun, running away, jumping a fence, hitching a ride, then showed up at the police station later that night to turn in the gun and report what happened.

Then the other guy, Mays, that Zeigler says was responsible and was found dead at the scene doesn't add up to being the killer either in my mind.

I think Zeigler had already killed his wife and in-laws. Perhaps the handyman was originally meant to be the patsy but had escaped when the gun jammed and then Zeigler called Mays to the store after that as a backup Patsy?

I obviously don't have all of the evidence, but if you read the details about the new DNA testing, they are a far cry from clear evidence that Zeigler didn't still kill his wife and in-laws. It was an extremely messy and complicated crime scene.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only Quailman can save us.

Lawyers for ‘Rust’ armourer move to get case dismissed after Baldwin trial collapses in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I rarely comment, but your statement is factually incorrect on a few points. I assume when you stated "Alina", you are referring to Halyna Hutchins. There were safety complaints filed by other production members, but not by her. The way you framed this statement also implies she may have been killed as retribution because she filed a safety complaint, which again, she did not.

If there is a credible source that the victim in this tragedy filed a safety complaint before her death, I will happily amend or delete my comment. I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything and this is certainly no attack on you personally, it just bothers me when I see misinformation.