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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That makes sense, thanks for clarifying. I agree, and what it boils down to is healthy communication and respect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You seem to only be accounting for people who are like yourself. It's hard to picture other people's minds because we only have ours to go by, but it's important to acknowledge that other minds work very differently from our own.

I was a habitual night owl in my twenties. Went to sleep at dawn and woke up around noon. I didn't have sleep issues, I was always incredibly rested and full of energy.

Now I sleep at 10 and wake up around 6. I have less energy but I am now a morning person. I can easily get up at 4 for occasions.

You're making judgements on others based on your own biased view, one that only sees it your way. That's why you're being down voted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's like that episode of South Park where half the town supported the war in Iraq and the other half protested the war. Except in this case it's all the same person.

Based on some articles I read I'm not too surprised. The guy sounded like he was getting looney.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When you stop thinking for yourself someone else will do the thinking for you.

It's ok to lose, it's an opportunity for personal growth.

Every person has a rich history and complex life they lived. Avoid the urge to pigeon hole, label, or otherwise treat people as a group.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

But that's exactly it, from another person's perspective he's not taking away anything, he's giving. This is what I'm trying to highlight here and all I'm getting are squawks about Trump is bad, my sister is bad. To some people Trump is restoring a desecrated country. They grew up their whole lives with a certain world view of good and evil, it's not their fault religion twisted their minds, this is the nuance I'm pleading you to take notice but all you can give me are limp platitudes that most people are good and bad, but Trump and his supporters are bad bad. Not very enlightening, because it doesn't say much about the real life people we're discussing.

Those people are not evil, though they may be doing evil. Just as you said, which means I expect you to acknowledge this point, "just because someone does good it does not make them good" works the other way around: just because someone does evil does not make them evil. This is why we need to find inroads with this group to create a space that can be shared peacefully by everyone. Calling them all bad and shutting down any effort to discuss only results in something even more horrifying, and frankly, evil: war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way you talk to strangers you don't know you absolutely deserve the vitriol. Drink up and nevermind how desperately confused you are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Spot on. Real life isn't like the internet, when you act the aggressor the victim isn't going to down vote your behavior, they're going to run away or defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are simply wrong on all points here, with the exception of emotional clouding. There may be emotional clouding going on here, but it's not with me and my sister. It's with the left and Trump. It's causing people like you to speak with insane antisocial rhetoric, and it's what's driving people further apart.

So you can play the part of the stuck-up bitch, or you can open up to people and their complex lives and beliefs, and see that things aren't as simple as you are trying to make them out to be.

While I'm not orthodox, I'm well into the left wing of politics, and even I can see that Trump isn't all bad. Few people that ever lived are all bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Ideally, yes. Practically? Not going to happen. We can't expect it, we can only hope that's what people are doing.

This fact is why you hear some people say that not everyone should be allowed to vote. There is a staggering amount of ignorance in our society, that's just how it is.

It's easy to excuse people when you have love in your heart. This may be what's missing in our society.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your sister is not a good person.

You are categorically wrong, and I'm trying to use this opportunity to shine a light on this part of you that is unable to see beyond what is black or white.

You cannot reduce a person down to good or evil based on how they voted. It's insane to think you can. It's insane to think you can tell me the truth about my sister.

This insanity is what the right sees when people like you talk, and it's what is driving the wedge further and further in-between what would otherwise be cooperative groups who want the same basic things in life, with key differences that require rational compromises.

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