lemm1ngs

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

So if an admin deletes a post that originated on their instance that post will still exist on other instances? what about in communities?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Pegasus compromises devices no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

several and performance varies room to room. Can you recommend a fast server?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

where did I mention the age of an issue?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

So on that classifications comment it's me not caring about calling a concept something vs discussing what something is already understood as a concept. There is a concept of what federation is, and that is represented in existing federated platforms like lemmy, matrix and so on. In that concept I see stupid things but it's not all the same nor all of the concept stupid.

So storage on discussions.app is currently using open blockchains. So its the blockchain that is responsible for what is there, while they are only using that for text, blockchains have had childporn put on them. It is next to impossible to remove data from a blockchain. So that is an issue. I think the data would be better stored in something like ipfs. This type of platform relies on the backend for its distributedness, like with a blockchain. Anyone who can access the backend can be part of the platform.

Yes the blacklists would result in a federation of sorts. I think the idea you store and distribute mainly content you use is a good one. The data has to be somewhat unfiltered for the model to work and in that part you will potentially be distributing content you may not want to. Though the situation would be some what a kin to putting encrypted content say here that people wouldn't like except for the fact they cant know that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

or Matrix could just solve p2p really well. The matrix.org situation has been mentioned by the p2p dev as motivation for p2p. The side benefit is matrix p2p solutions should work for other projects.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

What censorship evasion are you refering to with Matrix internal or external?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Signal's centralization is a huge weak point proven with the servers crash a while back.

Wanting decentralized tech is more a libertarian vs authoritarian thing than left and right. I really dont want to pull politic politics into this though cause the tech politics alone is enough :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

good idea nutomic!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Everyone who disagrees with the rules can talk to the admins, they’re humans. if you don’t agree with it, leave and find an instance that fits you. you’d still be able to access content all around fediverse.

Are you saying content censored in one instance still persists on others here?

I think the admin model can be done much better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I like what you are saying with openid but without caching or duplication the network scales poorly and content can go missing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

its gone into the 'fediverse'

 

Genuine inquiry . Maybe I am not experienced enough with the various federated platforms but I am an avid user of matrix, and have dabbled in lemmy. From what I have seen is federation is on the path to decentralization but not fully there. It creates fiefdom, little kingdoms . Great yes you may find one that suites you better, but users now can end up isolated to their island, switch island sure but now you are isolated for the previous island and maybe others. Its stupid. On matrix you need to know the other island(server) to even find its rooms(communities). Some rooms block users from one server while others block users of other servers. You either have to run multiple accounts or accept the limits. Add in you are at the mercy of your home server, you can lose your account have it immitated, and more. The performance is horrible not sure why, but content is slow to update and spread. Matrix has the problem because of its design most people are on the matrix.org server and so the point of federation is largely lost. They are moving to p2p where it seems the solutions for federation now dont apply.

Anyway why is federation not stupid? Are these problems only with Matrix? Cause I look at lemmy and it seems far worse.

 

I can't see how users can interact across servers?

On matrix I just join the room homed on another server but here how?

It seems like there are lemmy servers out there with no federation at all?

Overall I am not impressed.

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