naevaTheRat

I encourage everyone to check the mod logs. On one hand a carnist stating nonsense. On the other someone calmly explaining how synthetic taurine is widely used and modern evidence suggests cats can transition to properly formulated vegan food, while acknowledging that many bad formulations exist and that a whole food diet would kill them.

Unfortunately for the toxo brained admin who is definitely on the side of animals while claiming you can own them. This is unacceptable!

I was removed for stating that synthetic taurine is a thing which is used in food all the time and that a whole food plant based diet would kill a cat. according to the admin this is promoting dangerous actions.

Synthetic taurine is a thing and is widely used in formulated food. Cats are sometimes taken off meat based diets due to medical complications. The posts you removed were reasonable and explained why in good faith, the other poster made wild asertions not based on modern evidence and made anti-reality claims such as synthetic nutrients not being equivalent and 'meat' needs being scientific fact.

They violate the rules of this comm and you are overreaching by interfering.

All companion animals should recieve regular health checks by vets, and any major dietary changes should be done with medical oversight but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. Obviously a wfpbd will kill a cat, as the poster you censored pointed out. Your closeness is affecting your judgement here, and you cannot 'own' a sentient being.

What do you think self discipline is? Like what does it mean for someone to have more or less of it? How could you tell?

I ask because to me it's executive function. which had a physiological basis and varies based on physiological state. So someone without a well functioning executive function system's best would look kinda arse to someone who had a functional one.

OP have you considered that the state you're seeing them in is them trying their best?

Best isn't static right, like when I run some sometimes my best is wheezing and throwing up through 5 km in 50 minutes because I'm hungover and sleep deprived, sometimes it's getting shoes on and stepping outside before deciding to quit, and sometimes it's nailing a pb on a 15 km run and only cutting it short because I have responsibilities and shit.

You just don't know what's going on in someone's life. I am diagnoses adhd and have been undergoing treatment for 15 years. Mostly I seem like a kinda lazy spinster with too many hobbies and an untidy yard; sometimes I'm a whirl of activity and achievement; and other times I spend 3 weeks paralysed on the couch, absolutely wracked with guilt and self loathing, pleading for my brain to just give me enough of anything to feed myself for the first time in 3 days while my head pounds from dehydration and I want to peal my skin off for how dirty and uncomfortable it is.

Every moment is me trying my best. I can't imagine not extending the courtesy of that belief to everyone else.

I tried to start a movement but we didn't have food and water for people, a place to meet and plan, networks to raise money for legal defense/time off work, people to administer first aid etc. Why did it fall apart? Hmm, mystery.

I don't think most people enjoy feeling like a burden, judged as lazy, or living in filth and failing to achieve their goals.

Usually for someone to smoke weed all day and play video games or w/e without maintaining hygiene and health something has to be seriously wrong. Animals not maintaining themselves is like the biggest warning sign that something is wrong.

To simplify that as 'So and so lacks self discipline' is moronic. Maybe they claim they have adhd and they don't but something is fucking wrong with a brain in that state and they need help.

And just like that I became a racist.

Gimble vice and a fleshlight?

People's brains fall out of their heads on this one hey? Like wtf, you're actually responsible for what you say seems pretty basic. Nobody is arguing for prosecuting anyone who expresses opinions, or what they earnestly believe to be true and communicate in good faith. Just, if you make shit up and people get hurt well then, you did that hey.

Hmmm lets examine this statement.

Isolated weird place, scary Russians, Russian stereotypes of intellectual game + tremendous violence.

Gee, it almost sounds like this is a too convenient racist lie. Any proof? The oldest reference just says 'it totally happened' and cites something I can't access on Google books. It's 20 years after the fact and not a primary source.

It's a book about non monogamy and how to practice it in a considerate and sensitive manner.