The problem with copyright/data ownership is that it's useless if you're unable to enforce it. Data is replicable, doesn't matter if you call it "work" or "ideas". Do you think you own the text you just wrote? Let me show you something.
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We aren't talking about "ideas" being stolen here, we're talking about work being stolen and exploited for corporate profit.
Personally I don't think it's crazy to suggest that the person who writes a book should own it, the people who compose a song should own it, the artists who paints a painting should own it, etc.
As much as techbros love to pretend that AI is ushering us into a post-capitalist, post-copyright Star Trek future, it is actually in fact doing the exact opposite--it's empowering the biggest and richest tech companies to exploit human creativity in the largest industrial plagiarism scheme in history, all so some bullshit VC investors can gain their way up the pyramid scheme known as the stock market.
There. I just stole your text. I stole it. I own it now. It's mine now. What are you gonna do about it?
Instead there is no stealing when it comes to information, there's only replication, there's only copying.
I agree with you, corpos shouldn't have this amount of power. But you won't get there by trying to protect the work of artists writers etc with the exact same scheme corpos pulled to protect their power and interests. Like, it didn't work, did it? No copyright for me, thanks
I just don't like the premise of a market where one has to sell their artistic labor in order to survive, or thrive. I'm on board with noncommercial licenses and everything because the reality looks different, but that was not my point. And neither was it the point of the original comment you replied to.