ricketson

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

push back on the ‘woke mob

Exactly. I'm pushing back at people who derail conversations with their performative pedantry. They aren't helping anything -- they aren't promoting social justice. They're just preventing meaningful conversations and making it harder for society to function. I chose this topic because it's one of the older and widespread 'woke' objections and I've encountered it in many contexts (not just online).

More generally, there is left-wing/globalist attitude that having a perspective is illegitimate (speaking about the experience of people in a specific location and time and culture). As if real objectivity were possible. I'm saying this as a left-wing globalist.

 

It's become fashionable to object whenever someone says "Columbus discovered the Americas", pointing out that other people discovered in the Americas long before him. This objection is just semantic quibbling, and rarely even addresses the real problem with how Columbus' discovery is emphasized in history curricula.

  1. To say that 'Columbus discovered the Americas' does not imply that he was the first person to do so. Everyone knows that people were present in the Americas before Columbus -- it is usually even included in the story of Columbus' voyage. The pedantic objection that 'others discovered the Americas first' does not actually clarify or improve anybody's understanding of history.
  2. By simply stating that Columbus did NOT discover the Americas, these objections seek to obliterate the importance of what he did (both historically and as a nautical accomplishment). If they wanted to be accurate, they would say "Columbus discovered how to sail between Europe and the Americas". However, this performative pedantry is usually content to denigrate Columbus' achievement rather than seeking greater specificity about it's nature (as if that were needed).
  3. The impulse to denigrate Columbus' achievement is generally intended to shift historical narratives away from Eurocentrism. However, simply dismissing Columbus' achievement does not accomplish that goal. It does not expose the evil intent of Columbus' journey, nor the evil acts he committed in the Americas -- let alone the horrible long term consequences for the people of the Americas. It also brings no attention to the accomplishments of the people who already lived in the Americas, who discovered America via a fundamentally different process. It doesn't even correct the historical record in favor of the Viking explorers -- the reason we hear so little about them is because they did not spread the news of their discovery in the same way that Columbus did (e.g. not because Columbus took credit for their work).

Ultimately, it is totally acceptable to use a term like 'discovery' in a subjective sense -- a person can discover something for themselves only or for their own society. It's fine to have a perspective. Columbus discovered the Americas for Christian Europe. If we want to expand our own perspective to include all people, we need to do better than create fake semantic objections to Eurocentric narratives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks. It seems to have the same big-picture effect as congestion fees, though it may be easier to administer and more egalitarian (at the expense of flexibility).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

so I comment with ancap-leaning assumptions.

Ok. I'm not sure where to go with that, society would be radically different which makes it difficult to discuss any specifics. But I still think this would be an issue -- but maybe the issue would be neighborhoods forming HOAs to buy up local roads or something (if they didn't already belong to HOAs). Or maybe the issue would be how we assess damages for pollution/noise/hazards caused by cars... I assume that would be different depending on whether we considered cars the default way of getting around vs. a luxury.

well idk I had in mind a quick vehicle for emergencies, independence from bus or train times or things out of your control, etc. Frequently these things “other people” are running are unreliable so then people give up on them. And versus a lower tech option (walking, bikes, scooters, etc.), cars can shield from storms or snow a bit.

Cars are useful, but the question is whether they are worth the cost when the user has to pay all of the costs.

I'm not proposing any sort of car ban or rationing law. I just think that we shouldn't be using them for every little thing and we shouldn't build our infrastructure around the assumption that cars are the way to get around. Imagine a situation where there is (typically) one car per household rather than one car per driver. When I was young and single, I lived in a mid-sized city and didn't feel any need to own a car because I could walk/bike wherever I needed to go (granted, I was near parents and could borrow a car in a pinch, but there are also car-sharing organizations that can provide cars for occasional use).

it seems possible. either devs can factor in building their own parking without it being required, or if there’s enough demand some spot could be created as private parking lot, or shuttles could take people to destination.

My point is that insufficient parking has a negative impact on the usability of roads. If the road manager can't assuring that there is enough parking, then the road manager needs to find a way to keep vehicles off the roads in the first place.

But the car drivers probably think they’re plenty livable already. So, perhaps I might ask for more precise definition of goal or what livability means.

By 'livability' I mean favoring the interests of the city residents, and that cities are able to increase housing supply as population increases. The current layout of cities (or the city center) is often built to favor the interests of people who don't live in the cities (e.g. suburban commuters and absentee property owners).

I don't think that drivers find cities 'livable' -- I constantly hear drivers complaining about driving.

  • Gas is too expensive
  • Traffic is too heavy
  • Parking is too hard to find
  • We can't allow more housing to be built because it would create more traffic.

That's not to mention that half the reason people move out to the suburbs is to escape the noise/dirt and hazard that cars create in urban neighoborhoods (motor vehicle fatalities are usually the leading cause of death among people <20, though gun fatalities were more common in 2020).

Our reliance on cars is holding us back because people are unwilling to change their assumptions. We're in a horrible prisoner's dillemma where we just keep doubling down on the activities that make everyone else worse off.

Some publications:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

private cities could...

Transit is inherently a public matter managed by the government. Massive expressways are just as much 'big government' as public transit. There are no constitutional or principled reasons to make cars/trucks the preferred transportation option. However, these changes would require support from state, county, and city governments (depending on the political structure for the metropolitian area)

I’m kind of anti-car so maybe we could talk out some solutions. but they also have a lot of benefits and the cons (as mentioned in the post) haven’t been seen as outweighing the benefits for a lot of people.

The apparent benefits are in part due to subsidies and other externalization of costs. Ideally we could address those externalities individually, but as long as cars are considered the default mode of transit (for the middle class), there will be continued political support for these externalizations of cost. Furthermore, much of the externalization is directly due to infrastructure. For instance, many zoning laws require developers to add parking spaces to their projects -- it is not possible to eliminate those requirements without simultaneously making other changes to reduce overall traffic; otherwise, you end up with more cars than parking spaces, resulting in cars driving around the city looking for parking spots and creating even more traffic.

maybe getting rid of zoning would allow more housing and shops and things to be built next to each other?

High density housing is often opposed on the grounds that it would produce too much car traffic. Even if the local community supports it, it often doesn't work well if through-traffic makes the area unpleasant and inconvenient for pedestrians.

idk has anyone hashed out a decent “urban planning” guide? also keeping in mind remote workers so the city may be less needed for collaboration?

There's definitely been a lot of work on this. I don't know the publications off the top of my head though. I'll post them here if I find some good ones -- please do the same. Some of these proposals have been implemented in places like Berkeley (side roads closed to through-traffic) -- other communities have achieved the same effect by making tons of dead-end road sections, but this also blocks pedestrians and bikes from passing through, so it's a pretty dysfunctional (and elitist) way of controlling car traffic.

because ironically if the OP anti-car points are for environmental reasons, cities themselves are kind of anti-environment. so maybe getting rid of cities is the outside the box solution to cars being bad in cities?

This is about the livability of cities (or high-density areas), but one benefit of high-density areas is lower environmental impact. For a given population size, high-density city centers are much less environmentally damaging than suburban sprawl (the current alternative). I can imagine some layouts that may be better (e.g. high-density urban nodes [small towns] surrounding interstate exit points or train stations), but any environmental conservation program needs to find a way to minimize high-energy transit (e.g. cars) and minimize gratuitous conversion of land to pavement/lawns.

 

Heavy usage of cars and trucks is detrimental to urban communities; we should implement policies that reduce car-based access to city centers and other densely populated areas. This is mainly focused on the USA.

Some points:

  1. Cars interfere with the movement of pedestrians and small vehicles (bikes, scooters), making dense urban areas less usable.
  2. Cars require a lot of space, both for roads and parking. This competes with housing and green-spaces in cities, making urban areas less accessible and pleasant.
  3. Cars are dangerous and dirty - especially when at high densities, such as in cities.

To address this, a variety of changes may be instituted:

  1. Traffic arteries (e.g. expressways going to the city center) should be slowed and narrowed as it approaches the city center, so that passenger cars/trucks do not use it. Instead, they should be reserved mainly for motorcycles, buses, single-point delivery trucks (e.g. stores or to transfer packages, not trucks that will drive to each residence), and vehicles required for the disabled.
  2. A portion of city roads should be closed to most cars, either by making barriers that they cannot pass through, or resurfacing and shaping them to be pedestrian focused rather than car-focused. It is especially important that side roads do not allow access towards the city center (so that commuters don't just drive on side roads when main roads are over-capacity).
  3. Space reclaimed from cars should be re-engineered for greenspace, trees, mass-transit (trolleys), and pedestrians.
  4. Cities should stop subsidizing the construction of massive attractions (e.g. pro sports stadiums), or at least move them to more peripheral locations that are accessible from suburbs while assuring good mass transit from the city center.
  5. For situations where individuals feel that cars are essential, congestion fees should be charged and hefty penalties should be levied on traffic violations within dense urban areas -- including prohibition on driving in those areas.
  6. Suburban communities will be told that if they wish to enjoy the ammenities of the central city, they will have to support the expansion of mass-transit networks into the suburbs. We will no longer tolerate the double standard where they insist on having access to urban neighborhoods via cars but intentionally block carless urban residents from accessing their neighborhoods.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The arguments for men dominating top leagues is irrelevant for non-professional sport leagues such as local competitions, where sport is aimed at fun and social interaction, which should not needlessly encourage sex segregation.

Another possible compromise for 'classed' sports (weight, age, etc) is to adjust the cutoff criteria for women to even out the matches. The 'top' class may still be dominated by men, but I don't see that as an issue (any more than the fact that heavyweight wrestling in high-school is dominated by big guys)

 

This article is from mid-2021, but addresses a timely issue given the prominence of "replacement theory" among much of the right.

Joe Pinsker at the Atlantic writes:

The two main ways to help people have the babies they want are to give them time and give them money. A country can offer financial support in the form of cash and tax credits; it can also promote job flexibility by funding parental-leave and child-care programs, and providing job protections to parents who opt into part-time work. These strategies, demographers told me, address two core reasons why many people who want kids hesitate to have them: because they can’t afford to, and because they don’t want to compromise on their career.

What's notable about Pinsker's framing of the issue is his focus on evidence and individual preference. Pinsker is primarily concerned that adults feel like they cannot afford to have as many kids as they prefer, rather than fretting about racial or cultural 'replacement' or geopolitical power. It's also notable that the solution he promotes is to provide straight-forward economic assistance to parents rather than attempting to shame or coerce women into having more kids as Fox's pundits or Republican politicians do.

I found a few other interesting facts while browsing the web for information (I don't have all citations, but the PRB is good).

  • The US birthrate dropped below replacement levels after the 2008 recession, and took another hit from the pandemic during the 2020 but rebounded during 2021.
  • The low US birth-rate is not limited to white people (unlike what racial fear-mongers suggest)
  • Low birth rates are seen in many other countries, including Europe and the Caribbean, with some East Asian nations having the lowest birth rates.

Some recent news also has me wondering about some specific factors that may be stopping people from having more kids, including

  • rising maternal mortality (which has more than doubled since 1980, and is likely to get higher as states ban abortion)
  • The strong incentive to move around the country during young adulthood in order to advance one's career and achieve financial stability -- something that is harder with kids and separates would-be parents from potential family assistance.
  • The rising cost of housing -- in addition to health care and schooling.

If we are concerned about the societal consequences of low birth rates (and I'm not sure that I am), then we, as a society should at least make concrete efforts to assure that everyone who wants kids is able to have them.... instead of letting politicians use this as another culture war issue to divide us.

 

This article has an excellent roundup of how conservative pundits have doubled-down on the 'great replacement' conspiracy theory in the wake of the Buffalo shooting. It also explains the various flaws of reasoning in that narrative. I'm really disappointed by this reaction from the conservative media elite -- I had expected them to shy away from it for a while, but instead they have decided to own it. That is troubling, to say the least.

I'll come back later to discuss why I think these pundits are promoting a genocidal conspiracy theory (if anyone has questions). Serwer does a good job of breaking it down. In short, there are several flaws:

  1. Political identity/ideology is not fixed, especially not across generations.
  2. Democrats are not openly advocating for 'replacement' (Carlsons' clips show nothing of the sort).
  3. The problems with this conspiracy theory are not mitigated by replacing "Jews" with "Democrats" -- it still has 99% of the genocidal potential, and 99% of the logical fallacies.

Edit: Here's an Ann Coulter piece that Serwer did not include, but shows the same rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you think Mao adhered to the system described in that paragraph?

Based on that essay, it's not clear how the dictatorship identifies 'the enemy' -- "the social forces and groups which resist the socialist revolution and are hostile to or sabotage socialist construction are all enemies of the people. "

As long as some of 'the people' are at risk of being designated 'the enemy' without clear criteia, there cannot be democracy.

 

This episode of "The Fire These Times" has an interview with a Syrian activist to discuss the war in Ukraine. They discuss several interesting issues, starting with how Syrians and Ukrainians are facing a shared enemy in the Russian military; they also talk about how the shared experience of being refugees can build solidarity between Syrians and Ukrainians, particularly if they end up in the same cities as they flee the Russians. Finally they spoke about the delicate balance required to connect the Syrian experience to the Ukrainian one without distracting attention from the urgency of the Ukrainians' needs at the moment.

To start a discussion, how do you think the media and politicians (and people) of your country are keeping a proper perspective about the war in Ukraine and seeing the full context?

 

This podcast describes what we can infer about the "Indo-Aryans" who moved into South Asia around ~1700 BCE. Lets discuss!

To start, the historian-narrator has a preface about how he does not want to discuss the modern political interpretations of "Aryans" -- whether that is neo-Nazi or Indian nationalist. Do you think this is generally a good rule -- that people living 3000 years ago are not relevant to modern politics and identity? Or should we consciously look to these ancient people to provide a foundation for modern identities?