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NATO is gonna fail as hard as the nazis did when they tried to advance eastward. Sorry europe, not gonna work this time either.
i'm legitimately curious about this one, i always thought that finland aligned with nazi germany in order to help defend them in the winter war, but finland itself never really helped nazism or nazi germany in any capacity π€
(though i never really delved into this topic, so i'm not sure)
No probs! This is a very detailed account of the history, negotiations and details around the winter war. Remember also that Finland crushed their own workers revolts in 1919, and were part of the alliance attacking the USSR in the russian civil war / revolution, as they were to do again in ww2 alongside nazi germany.
The safety of Leningrad (which was within artillery range of Finland, and which had been attacked in the previous decades by Finland, Britain and Germany, and which Finland later assisted nazi germany in nearly starving leningrad's people to death), was the primary issue of the winter war.
i see, thank you for the reply :)
they definitely adapted fascism for quite a bit, until the soviets smacked them upside the head
how so?
Well their military and government was chock full of it, which is why Finland was so eager to help germany:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-11/report-finds-finnish-soldiers-were-complicit-in-wwii-atrocities/10798222
German influence in the government and many other aspect was apparent in the buildup of the Lapua movement in the early 30s. It was crushed, but the fact a fascist revolution even could happen is indicative of its popularity.
I hate to use wikipedia, but this article I had in my drives has been checked to be found pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Finland
It specifically highlights the existence of heightened fascist power from 1929 on to the early 40s. That is why it so eagerly sided with Nazis, took part in miniature holocausts, and participated in an idea of expansionism into soviet territory. It wanted land it lost in 1940 due to losing the winter war, even though the Soviets signed a large truce and guaranteed their independence as a country moving forward. Fascism heightens imperialist ambitions of capitalism, causing them to side with the barbaric nazis as they tore through the USSR's countryside in Barbarossa.
The Soviets though, again, started kicking their ass back into their lands, and killing their fascist elements. I said Finland had adapted Fascism, not become it, so they just needed to be entirely threatened to be shown the error of such ways, and then turned against fascism.
Sadly since the fall of the soviets they have slowly started up "Finland First" fascist movements. They've regressed on taking care of their school system, which is at risk of quickly falling in quality.
Reliable source?
Many have been falling victim to mold infestations, a serious problem that isn't being dealt with.
Nordic countries have been showing a huge overall increased in elected far right individuals, and decrease in far left.
You understand why I am the opposite of not worried though? This isn't small scale! Election of the far right is a terrible trend of something far worse beneath the surface.
I will read those sources
The liberal cope will be unreal when NATO inevitably loses.