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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Why do they deserve it according to you?

Why are these people not victims of a diseased system? If I look at what most of them seem to want, which is financial freedom and freedom from the grind, I can't blame them for trying. Even if I don't agree with the methode (crypto).

The whole point of me joining this ideology was that I wanted freedom from the meaningless grind for myself and others as well. I'm lucky to have found communism as an ideology but I could absolutely see myself becoming a cryptobro as well. Without guidance, you do what makes sense to you. And if you find a lot of people investing in a hard to get, seemingly endless pot of gold, you might want to chip in.

We can be critical at these people. But we shouldn't be hostile imo. After all, the big system has failed them again. What if they now find a better alternative in communism? And what if they are greeted with smug 'I told you so cryptobro' vibes? After all, we preach solidarity for our working class equals for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cryptobros present bitcoin as an hedge against inflation. The best hedge against inflation is Socialism, because things are priced according to their cost of production, not by how much profit someone will make.

I personally got into crypto so I could buy a house, without having to enslave myself to a bank for 40 fucking years!!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cryptobros present bitcoin as an hedge against inflation. The best hedge against inflation is Socialism, because things are priced according to their cost of production, not by how much profit someone will make.

Commodities are sold at their cost of production in capitalism too. Profit is the surplus value that is stolen during the process rather than distributed to the worker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, things are priced according to supply and demand market rules. This is quite inefficient and often leaves the most vulnerable at the mercy of speculators, since they can manipulate markets to serve their needs.

Look at the price of oil. Its production costs have remained stagnant in the past years, yet its price has suffered heavy fluctuations. This is what happens in the absence of economic planning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Supply and demand describe the fluctuations of the prices of commodities about their costs of production. They do not describe the prices of the commodities themselves. Oil's demand is relatively inelastic --and its supply constrained by cartels-- and as such its price can remain detached from its costs of production, enabling super-profits.

Suggested reading:

  • Value, Price and Profit
  • Capital Vol I
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