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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, porn is illegal in China. All porn. They weren't targeted for being gay, as both this article and the original Chinese language article points out. They don't get special treatment for producing gay literature either way.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

i'm so happy to see pink washing not working on lemmy; it makes me proud to be here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Can’t have anything nice in china. Sad.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Opposing the sex industry is a common and principled left stance. It is only in capitalist countries where their cops are funded to harrass people and Johns are rarely punished where there has been a need for a "sex work is work" movement.

In countries run or established by communists, they were often facing racial or otherwise imperialist systemic rape ("comfort women" for Japanese imperialists, for example), recognized how this worked in both slavery and "transactional" capacities, and correctly banned it. Things like erotica were swept up in this total purge of marketing sex, and enforcement is inconsistent as it is usually regional.

Please so your best to educate yourself, be accurate in your summaries, and to not be sinophobic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sex workers are workers, end of story.

I understand you Americans have fucked up views on sex workers and treat them like shit, but that is on you.

Also Australia women were taken as comfort women by Japan, and yet we still legalise and protect our sex workers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Sex workers are workers, end of story.

Most things labelled "sex work" are actually human trafficking and most Western left groups that oppose expansion of the sex industry and even want it banned are made up of former "sex workers". So no, not end of story, you do need to actually investigate the topic and understand it as more than a slogan.

I understand you Americans have fucked up views on sex workers and treat them like shit, but that is on you.

This is not exclusive to the United States.

Also Australia women were taken as comfort women by Japan, and yet we still legalise and protect our sex workers.

Was Australia occupied and had its people constantly forced into slavery roles, including rape, by the occupiers? Comparing a handful of captured during the war vs. decades of occupation and society-level abuse is disgusting.

Since you are presumably in Australia, can you tell me some stats on human trafficking there?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

And all work is coercive.

So what's it called when you coerce someone for sex?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If your mom had to start working as a prostitute from now on, would you think this is ok because all work is work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If she had to do that because she had no choice? That would be horrible. If she started an OnlyFans because she enjoyed the attention, I’d be embarrassed, but good for her.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if you're doing it for fun you're not exchanging money

this is mental gymnastics

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I have a job I love, I still get paid ;) this is not mental gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's not mental gymnastics because listen to this hypothetical

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been listening to your hypotheticals the entire time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't think you're following the conversation closely so I'll repeat myself:

Work isn't coercive because I can imagine someone who enjoys their job.

Homelessness is fake.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some brains are smoothier than others

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t think they are from America ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HISSSSSSS 😾

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Things like erotica were swept up in this total purge of marketing sex, and enforcement is inconsistent as it is usually regional.

A convenient excuse to stifle a person's consenting sexuality and agency. Written erotica hurts no one, and those arguing otherwise are falling into their authoritarian tendencies.

If you don't like sex work like pictured/video pornography and prostitution I can at least understand your reasoning. Both have massive issues of trafficking and sexual slavery. But swinging the hammer down like this on written erotica is purely authoritarian. And trying to justify arrests made as "inconsistent enforcement" is giving cover, purposeful or otherwise, to that authoritarianism.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sex work IS work. Erotica IS sex work. Please try to educate yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most things labeled as "sex work" is human trafficking. I am educated and I regularly organize with former participants in the sex industry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are talking about fiction stories, so let’s bring that back. I asked you a question in another thread, I’m ending this one.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please do your best to reply to what I say rather than changing the subject. You can always choose to just not reply if you don't have an actual response.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m just doing what you’re doing, not talking about the topic the other person wants to talk about. Show me I’m wrong by talking about the topic I want to talk about, the original post. Show me the changing the topic was not your intention.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I’m just doing what you’re doing, not talking about the topic the other person wants to talk about.

I am directly quoting and responding to basically everything said to me, lol. You might be projecting, as own comments are rife with deflections and topic changes. I ignored this 3-4 times before making a note of it just now.

Show me I’m wrong by talking about the topic I want to talk about, the original post.

I mean, you have said many things related to the original post and I have addressed many of them. You are, after the fact, trying to invent there being only one relevant and restricted original topic, which is, hilariously, not something you ever explicitly stated until just now. You haven't even really stated it, you are couching it in a question.

Feel free to make a top level comment about "the original topic" and I will feel free to respond to it or not.

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