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    [–] ininewcrow 59 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Windows 10 support ends and many are suggesting that instead of people moving to Windows 11, many will just move over to Linux

    [–] [email protected] 33 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    It's not about people trashing/selling old ThinkPads because Win10 support ended?

    [–] ininewcrow 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Personally never realized what October 14, 2025 was about until just now but your explanation makes more sense ... and it also make me realize that I should be looking for another thinkpad in the near future.

    [–] Sunshine 7 points 4 weeks ago

    Have your Craigslist’s bookmark ready ;)

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

    Large corps likely have extended windows support so you might not see a large computer dump into the market. But it’s worth keeping an eye out.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Yes, specificially hardware missing the prerequisites for Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0 iirc.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    eh~ There are a variety of requirements that have to be met and can fail for various reasons.

    GPU has to support having DirectX12. CPU must be 8th Gen if Intel regardless of TPM version. And of course, as you mentioned, it has to be full TPM 2.0

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Doubt.

    Yes, many internet nerds will finally switch to linux. Most normies will just throw millions of computers into the trash and buy win11 approved machines.

    Source: my tech illiterate normie family

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    And we don't actually need everyone to switch to Linux. Much like with Lemmy we need enough people to have thriving communities with Linux we need just enough people for companies to start properly supporting Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

    I'm really more concerned about the massive e-waste. Linux communities are thriving

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    yeah i just watched a girl in our class group chat trying to run a windows installer on a mac

    things like these remind me why linux won't become popular

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    well if people stick to the proper linux way of doing things (official software repos) then that's actually closer to what they are used to doing (apple app store) than just randomly downloading installers off the internet

    linux should be a relatively easy switch for most people.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

    I will have to disaggree on that, i can see your point but that is only if they had someone to manage thier system until they get the hang of it, otherwise they will jump back to what they were comfortable using.

    Be it mac, windows or a phone

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Hi, it's me. I'm one of those people. Currently test driving OpenSUSE Tumbleweed in KDE Plasma on an old Chromebook. Liking Linux well enough so far, and i have no special fondness for windows. Just need to find/learn Linux alternatives or work arounds for a few key things, like Cricut and SketchUp. Then I feel like I could easily switch over my main machine and never look back.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    https://alternativeto.net/ is a good place to start looking for the software that meets your requirements

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Thanks for the tip and the link!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Alternativeto.net is a good resource for finding alternatives by filterable tags including platform! Also wine and proton have come a long ways, many windows apps work just fine in a small wine or proton container.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Thanks for the tips and the link!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I can speak from experience on the Cricut: you'll still need Design Space to actually do the cutting, but you can use Inkscape to make your designs, just export them to .svg files and load those into Design Space on an old tablet or something. There's currently no alternative to Design Space for the actual cutting, due to Cricut's proprietary nature.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Could you run it in a VM or Wine?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    Didn't try a VM, but it definitely does not work on WINE.

    Edit: just did a quick search, it does work with a VM. I also thought about something like Waydroid to run the Android app, or maybe a port kind of like Sober does for Roblox, but I have tried neither and I'm going to sleep soon, so hopefully I'll remember about it later lol

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Thanks for the heads-up. I don't use the Cricut all the time so an old tablet will probably do fine but I'll also look into how to spin up VMs for things like this. Although I doubt my chrultrabook will be able to run windows due to its anemic specs.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Chromebook can run Android apps with the stock OS, so you're probably good there.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

    Unfortunately it no longer has the chrome OS and is running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed instead but I was able to get a design cut using my phone today. My old tablet refused to connect to the cutter, I think it might be too old.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago

    As if anyone would care that support ended. People are annoyed by updates anyway

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I did move to Mint to try it before October, but I am underwhelmed :(

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Underwhelmed? Do you miss random update restarts? We can help you out to have that if you like πŸ˜‰

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I miss my resolution not randomly locking itself onto 480p and requiring restart to fix (probably because I have Nvidia GPU).

    I miss having 150% scaling option since 100% makes text too small on my 4K monitor and 200% is way too large. I miss the scaling actually applying to all apps, rather then bunch of them ignoring it.

    I miss being able to play a new game without messing around with Wine settings and other crap for half an hour beforehand.

    I miss Jellyfin player not locking-up randomly at an end of video.

    I miss not having to reinstall steam because the package manager offered me the native package while flatpak apparently works better.

    I miss shit just working most of the time.

    That being said, it was much less painful then any of my previous attempts to use Linux. Almost everything could at least be made to work with a bit of tinkering. There certainly was a lot of improvements to ease of use since last time, but it is still not at the level of windows.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I guess the issue is, that mint is not on wayland yet

    I have distro on wayland and proprietary nvidia drivers running (endeavourOS!

    1. Never had an issue with resolution on my 4k screen
    2. I can set my scaling in 5% steps
    3. apps are as bad on adapting to zoom settings as they are on windows (it is bad there as well)
    4. proto.db is your friend, but yea that is valid, some games only work using a proper window VM, at least
    5. naver had an issue with jelly yet, but not often stream to my linux but to my iOS(and tvOS) devices.
    6. i do not like flatpak, because it does not see mounted ISOs per default (and you only have this issue because you decide to use flatpak for which there is no such thing on windows)
    7. shit just works until it doesn’t (any OS)
    8. πŸ€“
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I guess the issue is, that mint is not on wayland yet

    Yeah, I figured as much. I tried to install Pop! Os before falling back onto mint when installation failed for some reason and I couldn't be bothered to troubleshoot it.

    apps are as bad on adapting to zoom settings as they are on windows (it is bad there as well)

    I never had an issue with this on Windows outside a few Games.

    proto.db is your friend, but yea that is valid, some games only work using a proper window VM, at least

    I was so far able to get all of them working in Wine but it's just a waste of my free time to do that for every game.

    i do not like flatpak, because it does not see mounted ISOs per default (and you only have this issue because you decide to use flatpak for which there is no such thing on windows)

    Everyone so far recommended flatpaks. Idk. Why is there more than one way to install them in the first place?

    shit just works until it doesn’t (any OS)

    Yes, except on windows it takes on average about a year for an issue to pop up. On Linux, I had issue before I finished installing the OS.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    PopOS would require some β€œhacking” as well to enable wayland, iirc

    I think, for a person like you, a fedora spin (pretty up to date, but stable and not rolling) would be best fit for you, but please correct me if I am wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Idk, last time I tried to switch to Linux, I chose OpenSUSE and managed to brick my install by enabling encrypted grub. Now sure, on one hand it's skill issue to click a setting I did not fully understand. On the other hand, why is there a UI toggle that can brick my install without warning? I expected UI to be mostly safe and command line to be dangerous.

    After that, I wanted a n00b friendly distro.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I think stability and a clean architecture are underrated qualities for "noob friendly" distros, while badly emulating windows is overrated. I also think you should give Fedora (plus rpm-fusion for non-free drivers and codecs) a try, it's worth it!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I probably should have spent more time selecting a distro in the first place, but I don't have the patience to start over.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Fair, whatever works for you!

    Although from experience, most long-time Linux users have "started over" in different distros a couple of times. It's not as daunting as one might think, and it's also a decent learning experience to really understand how distros differ and (maybe more importantly), how they don't

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Ah yeah, Pop! OS is going through a bit of a transitional period, while they work out the bugs on Cosmic DE.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I loved what I saw of Cosmic, so I figured picking Pop! OS would mean I would eventually get it when it was stable without much work.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    It should be available for all distros. The alpha is available in the Arch repos right now, for example.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Arch

    I said I wanted to spend less time tinkering 🀣

    My point is not that I want it now, but that I wanted a smooth transition to it when it is ready.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

    I get it lol, but my point was that you won't specifically need Pop! OS, you'll be able to use it on whatever.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

    Most of your problems are probably down to NVIDIA πŸ™

    As for wine settings, why are you messing with wine when you have steam? Are your games supported?

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