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THE LEMMY INSTANCE POLITICAL COMPASS (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@PugJesus

they, like many centrists, have trouble discerning where their ideology begins and ends.

I thought a centrist was someone between "Don't be Stalin" and "Don't be Hitler."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are discussing in a thread about the political compass, so even strictly going by the meaning of the word "centrist" it wouldn't put you only on one axis in the authoritarian half.

But in reality a "centrist" is usually referring to someone in support of the status quo or at least someone that doesn't want to rock the boat too hard. Where exactly that person falls in the ideological spectrum can vary widely between countries, and even if they are not outright conservative in their expressed opinions, the very act of preferring the status quo makes them structurally conservative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am not sure if that is the case anymore. In many countries, like the U.S., the left and right have moved, and the center is not really represented by any party anymore. And considering the economy and the problems they see in society, the center wants change these days, not the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That seems to be a case of mistakenly thinking "the center is where my believes are".

In the US the Democracts are about as centrist and for the status quo as it gets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

There has been a power struggle in the Democratic Party, and the old guard that were centrists have largely been replaced by those who lean farther left. But both are still fighting over power within the party. In fact, one of the main complaints of Democratic voters is that their beliefs had not changed, but the Democrat Party moved farther and farther away from their beliefs.

I agree, in the sense that I think that a lot of Democrats are indeed centrists, and the Green Party is probably more consistent with what Europeans think is left.

But the current Democratic Party is not was it was 15 to 20 years ago, when it was a centrist, arguably corporatist party. It is not the party of Obama anymore. Now it is divided between corporatists and socialists. It would be inaccurate to call them status quo now, at least on the social end of things, considering all of the changes they are trying to embed into society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Something like 80-95% of people on planet earth are centrists, so yeah.

Though to reactionaries on social media, it's considered a pejorative term I suppose? Like people who dare to use something other than ~~Arch~~ Linux, even if required to at work.

We haven't quite left behind the "enragement increases profits" mindset that we all were taught on Reddit, to allow for more nuancer POVs other than "oThEr SiDe BaD". Meh, it's human nature.