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Just because we didn't quite fill enough buckets with arguing about the Budapest memorandum, the first time around

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

US: “give up your weapons, we will protect you.”

US: “omg why do you keep expecting us to protect you.”

I hope when Trump, Musk, and the rest of them go it is an incredibly long, drawn out, and painful process.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Budapest memorandum! Fun stuff. Instead of all of us arguing, I recommend for people to read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum#Content

I can really see why it is that some people have a hard-on for trying to destroy Wikipedia. A lot of the misery that's been washing over the world for the last 10 years or so is because they've developed really incredibly powerful tools for unmooring people's perceptions of reality from what the actual reality is, and Wikipedia is starting to stick out as a trusted source of truth, as the others fall and crumble one by one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I've read it. What are they wrong about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

The "we will protect you" part. Where did you see that? There's actually a specific discussion about it (talking about "security guarantee" and "security assurance", because it was debated at the time) and what the outcome was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, we DID protect them until Trump got into office. He's a trash gremlin. He turns everything into trash, while brainwashing the dumb people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

unfortunately I fear Trump will never see any retribution for his many, many misdeeds.

Musk, on the other hand, is young enough that we have decades for his chickens to come home to roost. We can really draw out the "find out" phase for him. I'm gonna buy a bottle of champagne for the occasion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It would definitely be out of character for Democrats to find Republicans accountable for treason or war crimes. They've followed this same pattern since Nixon.