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@shuro @lritter what this unknown desktop os?
TempleOS network edition.
@mittorn I guess everything that hit their trackers and had adblockers good enough to hide the platform :)
@shuro i do not think browser-based statistics is good. Anyone who do not want different from elsewhere will set windows UA and breaks this statistics. just imagine, how may bots may set windows user agent not being running on windows
@mittorn It is just an example.
You can check other sources and the picture is largely the same.
As for enshitification - not everything is about UI. One watershed moment for me was with XP almost never requiring basic drivers. Maybe except audio. Another was about being able to just use Explorer and not needing additional file manager. Yet another was supporting a lot of file formats out of the box.
Suddenly I needed only OS distro CD to make a simple desktop work.
@shuro supporting formats and hardware out of box never was good side of windows. But 12 years ago i used some PC which did not require installing any driver on windows 2000, EVEN TV TUNER worked out-of-box. None of linux live cd was capable to run it's sound and network card and there are no drivers for tuner and 3d acceleration on this pc. Network and sound required building some kernel modules, disabled by default
@mittorn Well, my experience was clearly the opposite. Notably I worked in refurbished laptop store back then and later in some factory in IT department - and installing XP was the first thing we did. We had 2000 for most workplaces as established standard but it almost always required drivers for everything and it was even worse before with laptops. XP picked up all basic devices most of the time, quite often - all of them including weirder laptop hardware like IR ports and dock stations.
@shuro it seems, support of this laptop was added after win2k release. Anyway, usually we not expect hardware to work out pf box on windows (at least before win10 which downloads drivers automaticly). Without downloading drivers it requires windows version released at least after hardware was made
@mittorn In my experience XP had larger set of drivers for older hardware as well. Or maybe it was better at detecting devices. Anyway it was just easier to put it on even older laptops where it was a bit slow but everything worked out of the box.
@shuro I XP have better hardware support because it targets workstation and home systems, while 2000 mostly targets servera. And it was released 2-3 years later
@mittorn 2000 was workstation system.
By the way Server 2000 was pretty nice too. I think it was the first Windows server OS I worked with.