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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Denuclearization is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes it's a good thing, but the US is utterly devoid of honour and trustworthiness and there's no chance they will actually follow through with denuclearizing their own arsenal, so this proposal is meaningless and no country should take it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

True. The US is the only country that ever used them and the only country where politicians regularly threaten to use them. Somehow though they get to act as if they are the only ones that can be trusted with them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It is nominally a good thing. In the real world, however, I'd be working as hard as possible to ensure I had a nuclear program to discourage specifically Donald, Putin, and Elon

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Those three aren't as bad as Netanyahu and he too has nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure they will denuclearize in the same way North Korea did after Trump negotiated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would North Korea denuclearize when the US still hasn't?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But Trump made a deal. The best deal in the history of deals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did the US uphold its end of the deal?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As far as I remember, the US interpreted "their end of the deal" differently than NK did.

That's exactly my point: Trump will "negotiate" the same way, will brag about a "deal" in the same way, and nothing will change in the same way, because both sides aren't really interested in substantial change in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

As far as I remember, the US interpreted “their end of the deal” differently than NK did.

And they will do it again. And again and again and again.

Deals with the US aren't worth the paper they're written on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Deals with the US aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

The ethnic cleansing of North America happened one treaty at a time.

https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

No it's not. Maybe you haven't heard but there is a war in Ukraine. They gave up nukes in exchange for pinky swear promises that their sovereignty would be respected.

I dont care if you think Ukraine couldn't use them or if they would have been invaded if they didn't agree. The Ukraine war is a giant fucking advertisement for owning nukes.

The only thing psychotic hairless apes understand is immense violence. We are not civilized. We are cavemen with atom bombs and spaceships.

Every country should own nukes. Every country without nukes doesn't matter and is ripe for exploitation or invasion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Every country should own nukes.

I agree with this.