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[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

If the other serious media have integrity, they should also remove themselves from any official event in the name of free speech (and future protection as that could happen to them later).

This is the only way to treat this kind of dangerous behavior.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They relatively recent consider themselves not as news, but entertainment

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Only relatively.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

Sadly, it is not just Fox News that has made the claim that their shows are not news. In the same year, Rachel Maddow's lawyers successfully argued that her program is also not news.

https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/may/23/san-diego-judge-dismisses-oans-10-million-defamati/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And they were both telling the unvarnished truth for once. Billionaire-owned media aren't reliable sources for news.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. It all started with Ted Turner and CNN. He very obviously viewed news as entertainment. Every story, no matter how small, was announced as Breaking News.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is a bit of the classic "both sides being the same" argument. The first article you linked even calls it out.

In the Fox case, Carlson was presenting his own narrative, not even one extrapolating from known facts.

Maddow was like "hey this journalist is working for Putin and writing for OAN. OAN is Russian propaganda." When in reality, the journalist in question wrote for Sputnik News, which is affiliated with the Russian government. Granted it is a bit of a stretch to say all of OAN is Russian propaganda.

Carlson, on the other hand, just completely made up a story about Karen McDougal blackmailing Trump. A completely made up story.

So yeah, I wouldn't go saying both sides are the same here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

There is no "both sides" in for-profit news media. There's only corporations figuring out which the most profitable demographic for them is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yep, it's not Fox in general, that was only about Tucker's show.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

No they don't. They just say that for legal reasons.

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