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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated that Russia must withdraw to its pre-invasion positions from February 24, 2022.

In an interview with Newsmax, he hoped that Donald Trump, with European backing, could end the war and influence Putin.

Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine will not accept any negotiated settlement that excludes its involvement.

He also suggested that Trump needs a diplomatic success to differentiate his approach from Biden’s. However, there is no indication that Russia is willing to retreat.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

With numbers out of Kiel:

132bn Euro divided by 450m Europeans == 296 Euro per capita. Not including already decided on money which has yet to be paid out, that'd nearly be double. Also not including refugee costs.

114bn Euro divided by 335m USians == 340 Euro per capita. Vastly exaggerated as they're valuing ancient Bradleys they would have to pay to decommission at the price of buying a new, modern one, same with old ammunition. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the US are saving money by giving Ukraine weapons, there's also shipping and refurbishment costs, but it's definitely exaggerated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Also not including refugee costs.

To put that into perspective: Germany alone pays 5.5 - 6 billion € annually to support the 1.2 million Ukrainian refugees currently residing in the country, that's additionally at least 65€ per capita in Germany annually.

E: I just noticed that your source lists refugee costs as well. The top four countries alone (Germany, Poland, Croatia, and Spain) spend over 80 bio. while the US contributed nothing. It's pretty clear, that European support for Ukraine is bigger than American support, even per capita.