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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It does and the actual wording is in my opinion a bit stronger in the EU guarantee, but I believe politically it's viewed as much weaker since the EU is fundamentally a economic/trade union and not a military one like NATO. That is to say, the EU could still exist without such a clause, but for NATO it's the entire reason for the organization to be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

EU: "obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in [the member state's] power"

NATO: "such action as [the member state] deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area"

Thing is though EU membership for Ukraine is still a ways off because there's still quite a lot of homework to do. A solution is needed now (better, five years ago), and that would mean a European defence treaty not limited to the EU. Also we want the UK to be part of it, anyway and, right now, while we're at it, let's make sure Canada is in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

until it’s tested, i’d guess states could say that “all the means” could be read with relation to trade and economics and other things governed by the EU

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no precedent, 'all the means' could also be French nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

absolutely agree! could mean anything from sanctions and “stern words” to nuclear retaliation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

law is complex and international treaties are rife with weasel word interpretation