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Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
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this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2025
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god damn this guy is a smoothbrain.
And america voted for him to run their country.
You spelled ruin wrong.
I didn't vote for that garbage
They had no choice! The Dems should have put up a better candidate! Genocide! Gaza! Liberals! Woke! DEI! Anything but make me address the consequences of my action and/or inaction!
More likely Elon hacked the election. Before election day Trump said multiple tines, “Stay home. We don’t need votes, we have all the votes we need…”
Watch the clip of Muskrat and his evil munchkin spilling the beans.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Some_More_News/s/bUP7KVzD3q
He's not smart enough to hack anything with a computer, certainly hacked it with money though.
I fully agree
More likely Elon ~~hacked~~ bought the election
I mean, looking at global politics… propaganda campaigns against democratic nations or alliances aren’t only occurring in the US and they’re working all over. You think Brexit wasn’t a psyops campaign funded by Russia? Or how about ultra-right wing conservatives popping up in elections across the world? These are planned attacks against democracy, they’ve just been hard at work sowing the seeds to destabilize the US for decades, and those seeds are finally paying off.
russia funds all of those groups, its not a coincidence they suddenly all appear around the time the us had thier elections.
Ruin*
I didn't... i would NEVER vote for that prick. We were bad before, but now I don't blame anyone for hating the US
I hate the US. That does not mean I hate all Americans, but jesus fuck, you guys fucked so many millions of people around the world voting for a literally human piece of shit. In not sure who's worse, Hitler or Trump, but it looks like Trump might finally win something: being worse than Hitler.
Boris Johnson told Zelensky not to accept a peace agreement in 2022 when Russia was willing to let Zelensky sit at the table. Now the Ukrainians don’t even get to attend the peace talks, no doubt because the Russians know that it’s the British and the Americans who give Zelensky his orders. Blame whoever you want, the Ukrainians really did it to themselves.
Yes, that URL doesn't seem a biased outlet
You know, sometimes I try to read articles outside my echo chamber and at this point
conservative == conspiracyin my mind. You’re just playing mental gymnastics the entire time.Wdym, europeanconservative has all the most unbiased takes!
Idk how to tell you this, but appeasing foreign invaders has never worked in the past, especially in eastern Europe.
Nonsense. It’s these sort of blanket statements that undermine a clear understanding of what each side wants. Putin wanted Ukraine to remain neutral and not join NATO, because the head of NATO, the United States was talking about unprovoked nuclear first strikes and all sorts of crazy things. Zelensky himself publicly floated the idea of Ukraine obtaining nukes. If your choice is between going to war and having a country on your border point nukes at you, then you might go to war.
In fact. The United States claimed Iraq (a country far away from itself) was trying to obtain nukes and invaded it in the 2000s, and that was while the leaders of Iraq were refuting the claim (and the Iraqis were telling the truth).
Right. And all the talks about reforming the USSR are probably just a diversion.
That’s what the United States and NATO countries claim Putin wants, and which he has refuted. That makes reforming the USSR about as believable as Iraqi nukes.
If you want to win me over and have me believe you, then my advice would be to go to Iraq and don’t come back until you find those nukes. My advice is that when you go, remember to avoid packing light, because you’re gonna be there a while.
You really shouldn't waste eggs by putting them on your face like that. They're expensive.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/12/zelenskyy-rejects-claim-boris-johnson-talked-him-out-of-2022-peace-deal
Zelensky is clearly a weak leader as he can’t even control his former staff. The negotiator goes out, gives an interview saying Johnson gave Zelensky his marching orders, and all you can do is pretend I should be embarrassed? Zelensky was a fool to trust the British, a people known to have cheated and humiliated people across the entire world.
This idea that the NATO powers that gave Ukraine weapons have no influence is very silly. As we’re seeing right in front of our eyes, Trump expects to collect payment for those weapons by taking Ukrainian resources. Of course they wanted Ukraine to prolong the war, accept more weapons, and rack up more debt. Johnson showed up, told them to keep fighting and likely whatever else Zelensky wanted to hear and now we’re at this outcome. Zelensky is at home seething, egg on his face as Trump and Putin decide the fate of his country. Reality is right in front of you and yet you deny it. If Zelensky had any sort of political or military leverage he’d be at the peace talks too.
That's a very strange reaction to being shown that the link you provided was a lie.
he sounds like a shill for vlad to me, similar thing that tulsi said on asian right wingers youtube channel.
It wasn’t a lie. I believe what the negotiator said in his interview. He’s telling the truth and Zelensky is lying.
Zelensky says it isn't true, Johnson says it isn't true, but some other random guy says it and you believe it. That's pretty sad.
The head negotiator is not some random guy. Lmao 😂😂😂 This is such obvious cope.
Why is he telling the truth but everyone else is lying?
He’s telling the truth because he didn’t do anything wrong.
Zelensky is lying to avoid admitting his mistake.
The British are lying because they always lie. Boris Johnson isn’t exactly known as an honest man, but admitting they played the Ukrainians would be a pretty terrible mistake when the other European countries want the fighting to continue.
Trump is telling the truth because he didn’t have any say at the time and doesn’t mind saying the quiet part out loud and throwing Zelensky’s bad decisions in his face.
Putin is telling the truth because the Russians have had to put quite a bit of resources into fighting this war when it could’ve ended earlier.
This is all I needed to see to know that you are not a serious person.
The alternative is:
Remember, the interview was in late 2023. It’s been over a year since the world found out. No point in lying unless you’re responsible for this mistake in some way.