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President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that Ukraine was responsible for Russia's invasion of the country three years ago, arguing Kyiv could have made a deal to avoid the conflict.

“You should have never started it,” Trump said of Ukraine while criticizing President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who had expressed concern that his country was not included in talks between the U.S. and Russia in Saudi Arabia.

"I think I have the power to end this war, and I think it's going very well. But today I heard, 'Oh, well, we weren't invited.' Well, you've been there for three years," Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago resort. "You should have never started it. You could have made a deal."

Trump went on to say: "I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, everything, almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished, and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way."

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Thought exercise: Which assassination would have more efficacy in the long term, trump, Vance or Musk?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

If we're limited to just one, Musk. Trump's unlikely to live another ten years, and Vance doesn't have the money or popular support to be a threat without riding Trump's coattails. Both also have pretty minimal impact outside of the US. Musk has global influence, at least another thirty years ahead of him, and enough money that very little short of death or being placed in a high security prison would hurt his efforts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

¿Porque no los tres?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From what I have heard, JD The Couchfucker Vance doesn't really have the charisma, so he probably wouldn't do too well without his buddies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

He'd have a pretty long runway to make his lack of charisma not matter.

He's likely the key figure in drafting a lot of the executive orders that Trump is rubber stamping. Trump and Musk get a lot of the attention, but Vance is more quietly behind a lot of the stuff, happy to let Trump get the credit for Vance's and Trump's contributions.