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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This is gold.

When I was a young teenager I was a communist because I believe in fairness and equality and on paper communism sounds great. Because of this I believed that Russia must just be misunderstood and maligned by the evil capitalist west - 2+2=4. I didn't have access to a lot of info and my idealism carried me a long way. Then I read about what had happened under communism and in Russia, and it didn't take long until my views changed entirely.

I think the (not sociopathic or psychotic) majority of MAGA supporters are that way because of what you said - MAGA uses real issues too - a clever mix of lies and truths, and because they believe the 'fake news' lies and immerse themselves in echo chambers of MAGA lies.

This has also happened in the UK with the BNP, EDL etc and now reform, which does well mostly in deprived areas (I wonder why?)

There has to be a point when they no longer believe the lies because reality directly contradicts them. But by then will it be too late?