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We're consolidating our social media presence due to limited resources and no longer posting on Mastodon. Follow us on Reddit

Please tell us that you're not moving away from Lemmy/Mbin too. There's a gigantic tonedeafness to asking your supporters to use centralized social media at this specific time that's hard to accept you're not realizing.

(quote from Proton's mastodon.social account info - there wasn't even a post made about it)

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[–] cyborganism 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't they realize that more privacy conscious people, which are their customer base, are more probable to be on the fediverse than Reddit? Especially in the current social media and political context.

[–] isVeryLoud 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, their customer base is now American Libertarians, not FOSS and privacy-centric people.

There is a mild overlap, but the actual target demographic has been made much clearer recently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you realize they dont give a shit about privacy?

[–] cyborganism 1 points 7 hours ago

No. Proton does give a shit about privacy, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

All that matters for decisions like this is the quantity of customers (actual or potential).

[–] cyborganism 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

In that context it makes sense.

I read another comment saying that the Trump tweet thing blew up in their face on Mastodon and they don't have any moderation over who posts what. Unlike Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when Reddit explicitly banned companies from moderating their own subreddits? The original point was that the subs should be for the community, but having a corporate moderator would only serve to suppress public dissent. Reddit eventually pulled a hard 180, and now it’s the expectation that a company moderates their sub.

For instance, if a sub was created for a specific TV show, the TV network wasn’t allowed to moderate it. They could have official accounts, but they wouldn’t be mods. Because if fans didn’t like something in a show, they had the ability to voice those opinions. But now there’s a heavy incentive for corporate mods to keep the company image clean, by scrubbing criticism.

[–] cyborganism 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah. But hey, Reddit became a profit making machine run by a psychopath. Like every fucking tech company in the U.S. So of course they switched to allow for more income.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

that's a good point, too. they would have that moderation control over an official lemmy community, too. But obviously not on any unofficial communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah and people like us are the most likely to recommend alternatives to Gmail to regular users who likely don't go out of their way searching for other options.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

No. No they don't realize that.

And as for Proton, they can get fsckd. For the people that work there, I'm sorry and I hope you can split off and work on a real privacy company that doesn't slurp fascist knob.