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Stolen from @vmstan

More analysis from @wiredfire:

It’s nothing to do with [difficulties in using multiple platforms]. It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi for their CEO being all Trumpy and somewhat horrible right wing. So they’ve run away because they were made to feel unwelcome on account of us not letting their BS fly.

Original screenshot is of the bio of https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy and wasn’t a post (that confused me for a sec).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Besides slow responses to support request and handing over info on that ~~Swiss~~ French activist, is there anything else they've done wrong? And I understand that they had no choice in the Swiss case - they had to abide by the law there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CEO came out in support of Trump and criticized Democrats.

If a business chooses to take a political position that isn’t strictly policy related they should expect blowback.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly that's just silly. Some random CEO enforcing Trump shouldn't be the thing to break the camels back.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How is the CEO of the business that makes the product in question "random"? Regardless, supporting Trump in this day and age is support for all the very worst things. You're way off base thinking it shouldn't be influential, few things mean more these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

To add, it’s a CEO with a lot less power than a normal CEO because of the Porton Foundation that’s above it. Some countries (like Swiss) also have more rules and regulations in place to keep people to help consumers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I care about the product feature set and price. Other considerations include environmental and societal impact as well as company billing reputation.

We should stop treating CEOs like celebrities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

vpns are all about trust. there is none if the literal chairman of the vpn company is an actual fascist. escaping these people is the reason many use vpns in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

He didn’t even endorse Trump, he agreed with one statement. (And doubled down on that and is really an idiot)

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah afaik their hands were tied with the Swiss incident. No VPN (or was it mail? it's been a while, either way) is going to jail for a user.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Not to mention that the data they did actually provide was very minimal. They didn't have to compromise any of their existing services to provide it.

There wasn't exactly anything Proton could have done from a technical standpoint to prevent themselves from knowing what they did, without making the service itself nonfunctional.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t even call this something they did wrong, it’s sad that they do have to do this, but okey

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I agree. I support climate activists fully. Proton seemingly just obeyed the law in this case, though.