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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (10 children)

The funny thing about immigration is that it turns out I don't need to research every single 'might be good, might be bad' country out there. I only needed to find a single country that had lenient immigration laws and would be accepting of me. Australia was that country for me, though it has it's own issues as all countries do. Personally, I don't think I should need to have some degree in foreign politics to be able to decide which countries would/wouldn't be welcoming to me. If anything, if Canada has some massive propaganda problem where all searchable metrics (58% Trudeau disapproval ratings, 58% think too much immigration, 41% anxious immigrant rights get too much attention), then perhaps "too much propaganda" is yet another reason to avoid Canada.

[–] rabber 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Australia hates immigrants too so have fun with that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a matter of degree. Australia has a housing crisis and many want to lower immigration, but their starting level of immigration was already incredibly high, for instance 30% of the population is foreign born, as compared to Canada's 21%. A marginal difference, but it still contributes to a culture more accepting of immigrants.

You know, I think somehow the rhetoric has gotten mixed up here though. I have said 'As a victim currently being forced to flee my fascist home country, I think Canada could stand to be more accepting of immigrants' and you have heard 'Canada sucks so hard I won't go there even though I'm American (and thus an uninformed idiot).'

I think it's part of an overarching narrative I've seen, of people from non-US countries hating on Americans for not voting/volunteering/working hard enough to stop Trump from being elected, that 'America = Bad' and '[Insert My Country Here] = Good, and we would never be like Bad America.' It goes without saying that I voted Harris & phone banked often. I don't think Canada is a bad country, I think it's amazing, even! But I also find the sheer amount of nationalistic rhetoric I've seen both around and directly here in this thread deeply worrying.

Like, you do realize that you're essentially responding to a trans person, a potential victim of genocide, with 'Haha, you're such an idiot! Don't you realize nowhere is safe for you? Don't you realize everywhere has rising far-right politics and hatred of immigrants? Have fun immigrating to a country that hates you to escape a dictatorship you tried to stop but ultimately had no control over!'

I'm very aware that Australia also has an upswing in anti-immigrant rhetoric. I find it deeply unempathetic of you to try and use it as some sort of 'gotcha' to prove that your country is amazing (or that other countries are just as bad). I'm currently having to flee the country I've called home my entire life due to political persecution. I think it would be helpful if people could remember that I'm an actual person and not just another 'stupid American'

[–] rabber 1 points 2 days ago

Hey man I apologize for trolling you because you have clearly done your research.

Australia is basically just like Canada though and let me explain.

Everyone in the country lives in basically the same small area and the rest uninhabitable.

Both colonial nations with still a terrible treatment of the natives.

The wildlife kills you.

The climate kills you.

Canada has hillbillies but straya has bogans.

Housing crisis caused by identical problems.

Have you considered living in tassy? That's where I live without question.

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