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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

~50% of an armed populace will fight for an oppressive regime. It's not an effective way to deter governmental takeover.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that number is based on what, exactly? Vibes? Revolution only succeeds when there is broad support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Based on how people voted

Revolution only succeeds when there is broad support.

That's exactly what I'm saying

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The US Electoral system is not a representation of political views, but constraints within what the Bourgeoisie indicates as "acceptable." Support for Luigi is widespread among the Proletariat, regardless of how they voted. Your error is in assuming the DNC and GOP parties represent the people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This assumes that either the populace that would fight for a freer regime is in the permanent minority or that there exists no part of the populace that would simply not fight for either regime.

I seem to recall that ~40% is the magic number of strong supporters (not necessarily militant supporters) that the regime would need to effectively suppress dissent through violent and non-violent means, but that's a half-remembered number that I cannot source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I meant ~50% of people who fight, not 50% of all people.

40% seems pretty high for that effect. I suspect it would depend on how desparate people are for change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

That's not how power works.

An armed population is just ensuring their rights through threat of force just like the government doesn't. The government has to take that into consideration when deciding if they're going to choke more social support in favor of giving more to the keys of power.