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Tulsi Gabbard fires more than 100 intelligence officers over messages in a chat tool
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And are they purging everyone who used such chats? Are they purging every straight person who ever mentioned a romantic partner? Are they purging every cis het guy who mentioned hooking up with someone over the weekend?
Give me a break. People talk about their personal lives all the time at work. This isn't Severance. What kind of company have you worked for that people never talked about their personal lives? Except, the administration has chosen to interpret completely normal discussions about personal lives and health matters and declare them obscene, simply because they involve queer lives and bodies, rather than straight ones.
People who appeal to "the rules" are usually doing so in bad faith. If the NSA really does have such formal and strict rules, then they would likely have to fire every person there for violating them. The employees on this chat were clearly acting in a way that was considered acceptable within the culture of the agency.
Would you freak out over a group of women discussing their health issues? What about a chat where a group of men discuss the pros/cons of a vasectomy? Everybody has issues that can sound gross and obscene if you read them in bad faith. It's obvious that at the NSA, this kind of discussion was just acceptable. But then they chose to only fire the trans people for violating the sanctity of "the rules."
You are the kind of person MLK warned us about, the kind that prefers order over justice. And you should know from history that "the rules" are often applied with blatant bigotry and double standards. And that is the problem here. Appealing to "the rules" when they are clearly being applied incredibly unevenly in the service of overt bigotry shows that you do not give a damn about justice.
Are you serious? Such formal and strict rules that you can't talk about your genitals in a work-provided medium without fear of retribution? You're gonna be shocked when it's revealed they had to wear business casual and had to comb their hair as well.
I work in a very left leaning org and if I mentioned something as mundane as having pubic hair in our chat I'd be fired immediately.
Lol, yeah that would absolutely not be something I talked about with coworkers at work. Ever.
Why is it obvious? Why would the NSA of all places have literally the most liberal code of conduct of any office in the history of civilization? There is no office environment on the planet where talking about your genitals, your "penetration enthusiasm" or the intensity of ass-hair laser sessions will be acceptable.
Am...am I taking the bait or something? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, and that maybe I'm just feeding a troll?
Peope fired were ones discussing the matter. The messages were not about standard trans issues but details about their sex life and orgasms post transistion, which is a huge violation. That shit is not safe for work at any job. And being that these chats are saved, the government wants no liability for holding that level of sensitive information. This was a huge violation of government systems in which they accepted the terms of use. If you think that this is a target thing, then you seriously do not understand how the world around you works. I'm completely for the rights of all people, but there are still lines that you do not cross. If I were to work there and just start rambling off about how big of a dick I have is, or any details of sensual activities the night prior I would have been fired too.