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Rome wasn't built in a day, nor did it collapse in a day.
progress from and to nothingness is nothing but persistent.
It doesn't say the end of the collapse, it is like the collapse, the active part of it collapsing...
Yeah, it took a plague, real shit winter, famine, mass migration invasions and many civil wars. US has a long way to go to reach that point.
Historians might look at this point in time and say "Trump's second presidency severely weakened the dollar. This had the knock on effects to make borrowing more expensive which made it harder to maintain their public expenses. Their issue was that the army always eats first, the people get the rest. No bread and games was ultimately the downfall."
Dont down play what damage trump and musk will do like that. Its like trying to tell the people its better to be occupied by the nazi rather then have crazed conmie rusians ransack and rape their way through europe.
Not trying to downplay what Trump and Musk are doing. They're eroding democracy and turning the US from a mid-level oligarchy to a full oligarchy like Russia has now. I'm talking strictly about the downfall of US global hegemony in the global world order.
Rome took centuries to fall and it's likely that the US will also need a similar amount of time.
yes, and that's my problem with these posts, they act as if america is currently in the process of the soviet collapse, problem is, we are literally nowhere near that stage of progression, if we even get there at all.
The collapse of the Soviet union arguably lasted thirty years. The roman empire collapsed over a couple hundred.
Half of the US government does not know whether they currently have a job. And that's not an exaggeration, thousands on thousands of employees have been fired, their firing paused by a judge, and are currently awaiting whether or not their boss is going to listen to the president or the courts; all while these agencies have effectively been crippled and will not function practically at all for the next four years.
The US is speed running collapse, and we're later in the game than you seem to want to admit. Scotus will pretty much universally support Trump over the law, as we have seen with recent decisions to overstep lower courts without a writ. It's now down to individuals, and at that point empires collapse. It just seems slow because societal and economic inertia for 370 million people is ridiculous.
no, the downfall of the soviet union lasted 30 years.
The collapse of the soviet union lasted at most 5.
this is literally what makes it slow, people don't understand that, it's not that it seems slow, it literally is slow.
Shit, the Soviet Union just won the Cold War - idk about it having collapsed, more just changed shape.