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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Currently there are 3 browsers available and one of them is only available on overpriced disposable hardware.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

Actually WebKit is often used in the same role Gecko would be used, until Mozilla decided they don't want alternative browsers on Gecko.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

Which are? Please list a few current ones that have reasonable backing and at least a mid-size community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Here are two on Linux:

  • GNOME Web (was called Epiphany)
  • Konquerer - KDE

Those are the two biggest desktops on Linux. In fact, when I run Tauri (like Electron, but uses your system webview instead of bundling it), it uses GNOME Web on my system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They still exist? I was under the impression that they are abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

They absolutely do. A lot of distros package Firefox or Chromium or something as the default, but those browsers are default for their respective DEs.

Here are their most recent releases:

  • Konquerer - 24.12.2 2025-02-06
  • GNOME Web - 47.3.1 (Jan 2025)

They don't move very fast, but they don't need to since they just pull in upstream changes. Their main purpose is to provide a default webview and browser, but most people use a different browser for everyday use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Konqueror is more or less dead as a browser. I don't even think kwebkitpart is maintained anymore since QtWebkit was abandoned with Qt6.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

It had a release this month, that doesn't sound dead...

But yeah, it's unfortunate that Qt WebEngine is Chromium based. I get it though, it's probably less work to maintain and if users complain, you tell them it's the most popular embedded engine.

kwebkitpart

Maybe you're right though, the last commit on master seems to be 2 months ago. I wonder if it's officially dead or just maintenance only.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you look at the kwebkitpart commits, it looks like it's been nothing but localization for years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

That's really too bad.

We lost this war with operating systems when Linux ate the BSDs' lunch, and it's happening again with browsers. I hope GNOME Web sticks around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I wasn't thinking of such and meant vimb or surf.