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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So word is that the more the US mistreats Z, the more the European people like him, and want to support him. So this was probably a great outcome fir them. The deal offered was very one sided. Had Z just not taken it, people would blame him. But now, everyone knows who to blame.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I understand you mean Zelenskyy, but you are using Russian dog whistles, by referring to him as Z. Z = the Russian version of calling people Nazis because they opposed Putin.

Tagged, and watching to see who you are. Especially with that extremely sus UN.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Z = the Russian version of calling people Nazis because they opposed Putin.

This is the first time I hear that, do you have any source?

All I know about "Z" and Russia is they used it to mark some of their divisions early in the war, and it later became a rallying sign for them, for supporting that same war and Putin. So quite the favorable thing for them, even if it's used only in war propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

I don't think there are sources as this is more of a slang, but saying "someone is Z" has been synonymous of saying someone is Russia aligned.

I never seen it used in the context that the OP is describing

Example: https://youtu.be/zVH2UUR09HQ