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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The article basically paints the picture that the original guy bred them the right way (I don't see how),

Speculation, but couldn't he have selectively bred only the smartest, well behaved offspring, while breeders looking to make a quick buck might just breed make as many as possible without regard to temperament?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

“Backyard breeders” tend to breed for looks, so he “created” a great breed that happened to be fucking adorable and then people started targeting the adorable without as much care for the temperament.

[–] masterspace 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean possibly, the article describes him trying to train standard poodles as guide dogs for years without success, and then he crossed one of them with his boss' lab. So like, I'm sure they were probably good god that he used, but it wasn't exactly a calculated science.

But also, isn't that what unscrupulous breeders are going to do anyways? Like I don't see how this breed makes puppy mills better or worse, it seems like it would just change the breeds they target.