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Are people here pro-conscription? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A recent event led me to fact check something that I thought must be untrue, which is that Ukraine conscripts people into the military against their will, including making those people that had previously fulfilled their obligations return to the battlefield.

Moreso, when browsing X recently I saw bunch of videos being posted of what claimed were police forcing people into vans to go fight in Ukraine. The police were beating these people in the process. Now, it is possible that some of this content is propaganda, but I did want to find out if Ukraine forces conscription.

It appears that it is true:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Ukraine

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/lacking-manpower-ukraine-resorts-to-harsh-means-to-force-draft-dodgers-into-combat

I am very much against conscription. I still support Ukraine's independence, but the fact that they are forcing people to fight through beatings, arrests, etc. is sickening to me and makes me lose respect for Zelensky. According to an estimate by Ukrainian commanders, 50% to 70% of Ukrainian conscripts are killed or wounded in their first few days in combat on some areas of the front.

What are others thoughts on this?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think folks should always have the right to refuse,

mos def. the trick is to make it fun and part of the transition to adulthood, so they want to serve.

In lieu of the loan system, if there was a similar program for agreeing to work as a public servant for X number of years in exchange for free school, it could be appealing.

in addition to schooling, give them access to home loans too. make it possible for people to own houses again.

crazy dreams right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Shit I'd do a lot worse for a house.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

clear firebreaks or hunt invasive species in order to get the gi-bill equiv? fuck yeah...