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[–] StoneyPicton 7 points 1 day ago (8 children)

For years I've been thinking about forcing a change to the Consumer Packaging and Labelling Act mentioned here by issuing a charter challenge. My stance would be that not forcing company's to list all countries of origin and the percentage of material and labour that they make up denies me the information I need to make an informed decision. I have a right to this information so that I can express my support for or against areas of influence that affect my life. Anybody think this would work?

[–] n2burns 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

issuing a charter challenge.

What article would the current standard be violating?

[–] StoneyPicton 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a lazy, not so bright contrarian who doesn't know the details enough to have formed a sensible defense. What I do know is that I have a right to express my beliefs through my patronage and I'm currently being inhibited in that effort by the intentional obfuscation of the information I need.

[–] n2burns 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well, you're the one who brought up the charter, so I hoped you would have an idea of specifically how the current standard is violating the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. IANAL, but as I see it:

What I do know is that I have a right to express my beliefs through my patronage

Sure, no arguments here. Section 2(b): 2 Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

and I’m currently being inhibited in that effort by the intentional obfuscation of the information I need.

This is the problem. I'm not sure there's any reason, in the charter or in other law, that a private business has to publicly disclose the origin of their raw materials. Yes, at certain stages they have to disclose to the government, potentially for health & safety, imports/tariffs, etc. And I do believe that labeling requires a manufacturer/distributor to be listed so there is a corporation who can be held responsible for the final product. However, where a company sources their ingredients could almost certainly be considered a trade secret, and outside of new legislation, I can't see manufacturers being forced to disclose this.

[–] StoneyPicton 1 points 7 hours ago

Thank you for adding more substance to my rant. Is the reason for a private business not to disclose the origin of their inputs exactly that by not doing so it deprives me of my right to express my beliefs? Obviously any existing laws or regulations are exactly where I am trying to force change. I don't agree with the protections offered under trade secrets as I am only suggesting they are forced to add a list of countries and only a percentage of the inputs they represent. In addition I'm already tired of corporations hiding too much under the "trade secret" banner. In general I have not been a fan of corporate governance for some time and feel it is time to bring them to heal. I know this opens up a whole can of worms but I would argue it to the end. Thanks again for your thoughts.

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