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So what are they going to do? This is what happens when you prop up & support ethno religious states. Don't want it then stop supporting Israel's existence.
The problem isn’t that Israel is an ethno-religious state, it’s that it’s a genocidal, apartheid, settler-colonial state imposing itself on someone else’s land, and it’s trying to ethnically cleanse that land of its indigenous peoples, and it’s trying to expand its territory into a “Greater Israel,” extending its project of ethnic cleansing ever wider.
Orrrrr, now hear me out, we ratchet up the propaganda, black listing, and police responses to protests. Eh?
You can support Israel without supporting what they're doing.
Edit: the state of Israel
If you are aware of what they are doing, and you provide support to them, that is therefore knowingly providing support to their actions, whether you agree with those actions or not.
Or, if you just meant 'agree with' rather than 'supply', then I would say that what they're doing is not something they will ever stop. It's an integral part of their existence as an imperial Zionist state, they aren't just doing it for fun, or because of some 'bad apples'. They have no plan or desire to stop, their history is mostly just this same type of war and besieging repeated, and the USA would probably abandon them and let them collapse if they miraculously did decide to stop, because the US imperial strategy only values the Zionist Regime as a attack dog in the Middle East, a region critical for resource control.
A lot of words to say, it might as well be supporting guns without supporting bullets. There is no realistic situation where guns won't be used to shoot bullets. They can't be separated, in reality. Why support guns, at that point? It's just a comfortable abstract idea in a vacuum.
What would "support" look like in this case? How do you ensure that support isn't weaponised and used to promote genocide?
How do you ensure the alternative doesn't?
So you can't answer the question
Ethnostates are never necessary and are always fascist.
You want the genocidal dictator to "step down" and the genocidal terrorist army "needs reform"?
You're not even trying, man. At least try to make it seem like you actually believe your "both sides" hasbara. Ass is, we can all see that you're a rabid genocidal Zionist.
This community is clearly pro-Palestine since I keep getting downvoted, and only my comments are getting deleted, but I do find it funny how everyone here is giving me shit for being a Zionist and everyone else is ignoring my statement about how Palestine would be significantly worse. What's your alternative?
Fuck yes it’s pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist settler-colonialist. It’s anti-apartheid, anti-ethnic cleansing, and anti-genocide.
Palestinians have the right under UN law to struggle against their occupiers by any means necessary, including armed struggle, while the State of Israel, as an occupier, has no right to “self defense.”
Firstly, Lemmy is not an “application,” and secondly, wouldn’t it be a shame if we were to drive out hasbara genocide apologists.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Absence of support of Israel isn't the same thing as antisemitism, no matter what they'd like you to believe. I have no particular views regarding Ecuador, that doesn't mean I'm racist against them.
Israel is what it is doing. It was founded on settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing.
The name Israel was chosen by the Zionist movement for a reason & reflects what they are doing. By keeping the name, you're enabling/supporting them.
No, you really can't: the nature of a thing is what it does