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Don't blame Satan if things don't work out. It's God's plan right? (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you can have this same dilemma as an atheist as well.

I'd like to hear your opinions on how you think so (truly). The way I see things, Atheism is only the answer to a single question: do you believe in any gods? If "yes," you're a theist or deist. If "no; I don't know; not currently; maybe one day," then you're an atheist. It's not a philosophy or a comprehensive worldview, and it can't possibly answer deeper questions.

What you're referring to in the latter half is Determinism and Compatibilism (Determinism + free will). Science is currently leaning pretty strongly towards Determinism, but since Compatibilism doesn't add much more to the idea, it's also still a candidate possibility.

It's very likely you could calculate every chain reaction from the Big Stretch up until now and maybe even into the future. Whether we have the ability to affect or disrupt those chains might be a matter of philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God having a plan vs. everything being calculable to us is practically the same thing, no? Either way, it's still best to act within your moral framework, religious or atheist because it's just better to be a good person. I think me calling it a dilemma for either side is a stretch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

God having a plan vs. everything being calculable to us is practically the same thing, no?

No. A supernatural conscious agent with intent (e.g. a god) planning and orchestrating every quantum-interaction is not the same as humans documenting or even predicting extremely complex chains of physical reactions.

Either way, it's still best to act within your moral framework, religious or atheist because it's just better to be a good person.

Agreed. Whether Determinism is true only gives credence to philosophies like cosmic nihilism, and being a cosmic nihilist myself, it doesn't matter that much whether my actions have purpose beyond now. It feels good to be kind, I know how it feels to be hurt, and so I try to do as much of the former and as little of the latter as possible.