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If the Marshals Go Rogue, Courts Have Other Ways to Enforce their Orders
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And when the courts go rogue they can deputize .. Anyone. Like Andrew Tate, or elon.
Monkey paw urges caution
Fuck that. That monkey paw bullshit is how the courts were stacked in the first place... Because Democrats are too busy pretending to be the adults in the room to recognize the game has changed
We have to use the tools we're given, or we hand a self described King all power
Not to mention, if this was a tool MAGA had use of, they'd use it with or without precedent
Being pragmatic and realistic is not all sunshine and lollipops. Sometimes it is. These days the sun hates us and the lollipops are 100%plastic.
You already have a king. You had one when his followers declared him god king emperor. It.wasn't defeatist to try to sway people against him by warning of what the inevitable outcomem of.his reelection. Was it? Warning is not complying
It is warning.
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The tools are not within the scope of the rules of the game.
Relying on rules while the bad guys relied on the good guys adhering to decorum is why we are here.
The institutions are being destroyed, their function and.power coalesced.
Do not hope an abstract concept of laws and justice will bring salvation or that they are finished perverting every noble intent and.safety mechanism.
I don't know why you're arguing with me.
Seriously, read my comments.
Tell me what I am.
I don't think you're on the wrong side, I think you're advocating to hold back on using a tool that can be used, right now, to mitigate some of the most terrible shit that can be done to a group of people by a government
But even forgetting what's at stake... Do you think there are no checks on this power? Do you think it isn't used already? There was a case last year where a judge ordered a custom bat mobile or something, and was unhappy he hadn't received it yet. The local cops flew across state lines and seized one in front of the judge in line. The judge ended up balking at using this legal argument, but it was discussed, and the opinion was that the judge had no legal basis for it anyways. I don't remember the resolution, but the judge was in danger of losing his robes over it
There's petty tyrants everywhere... The police are generally enablers of it to start with. Judges are still beholden to oversight, aside from the supreme court apparently
And back to where we are... Things aren't just going to go back to normal in two or four years. We're over the cliff, they're disappearing people and throwing them into what legally classifies as torture with no due process. They're trampling over the courts and the constitution - there's no going back from that, only forward
This isn't the time to tiptoe carefully around. It's not time to come up with reasons to let them continue to act, even if there's problems to work out later
Marshals can also deputize, and they’ve already deputized Elon’s private security.
Nah, that's nonsense. Trump controls umpteen kinds of law enforcement already anyway; he doesn't need to deputize anything.
Your comment is just fearmongering to discourage resistance against his tyranny.
A lot of that going around lately, including telling people that the way they plan on resisting is "doing it wrong."
No. Akshually, I keep having comments removed for urging resistance.
It isn't trump who would be deputizing.
When shit hits, though, it won't matter who is deputized.
It'll be us vs them.
But, like you said, they basically control LEO. From FBI to marshalls and on down to the already rogue constitutional sherrifs.
In the meantime, do you think certain judges having the ability to deputize literally anyone for civil matter won't also be weaponized?
Such as in cases of pardons, or the media, or congress, where the magats will likely lay ridiculous charges on anyone and then have the trump appointed maga judges annoint and send forth their crusaders.
Caution is warranted. There is danger in this power. And we know who will use it.
Edit: wanna complain about my assessment?
Do something to stop it. Stop them. Fucking do something. Anything.
The dems won't. The feds won't.
Only those who do will.
Fight back.
Courts and.laws mean.nothing now.
Understand that.
That is reality.
The judges already have the power and legal precedent to do so. The trumplets have already demonstrated zero care about needing either of those things, so I’m really not seeing what you hope to achieve by not using one of the few legal avenues actual consequences could be enacted on the fascists is?
Whatever you let them do, they will. stop complying with fascism.
The fuck you on?
You're arguing a point I didn't even make.
I'm not complying. I'm fucking warning. Know what to expect. Jfc . you really like to be mad at your allies.
Anyway. Good luck.
You aren't the voice of reason here. Caution is no longer warranted. If you intend to continue fear mongering, just stop talking. You have a defeatist mentality and we do not need it.
It is a warning, an educated expectation to prepare for likely outcomes.
If you aren't prepared for likely futures you aren't preparing.
Seeing the possible uses and outcomes is not defeatist. It is awareness.
Warning: bridge out You may drown, crash, etc
Yep, Defeatist.
Not a warning, not educated. Just foolishness. The other user already told you about deputizing and how you are wrong. You have the same mentality as the current Democrats in office - do not use the avenues available to you in fear they will be used against us.
They are already being used against us.
We are already crashing.
You are advocating for weakness. Like that user said, stop complying with fascism and expecting a better outcome.
Yes, defeatist.