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[–] [email protected] 249 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm fairly convinced that what makes a lot of the US population right wing is a lack of understanding of what that means.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 days ago (5 children)

My dad (long time conservative but can't get on the trump train which is good at least) thinks that "tax the rich" means people like high end doctors and surgeons. People who are absolutely in the top 1% but like "has a nice weekend car and maybe a lake house" not people making millions of dollars per month or week (or more)

[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"The difference in wealth between a surgeon and a billionaire is about one billion dollars, it's the billionaires that need to pay more taxes, they pay a smaller % than you."

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How the the story of the nurses who pay more tax than Bezos didn't result in a landslide for progressives, I'll never understand.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

including misinformation and disinformation from right wing sources.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes...that's what I said

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

More as a percentage* than nurses.

That's one of the arguments my dad makes too, depending on the source he pays like 1-2% in taxes on a given year which was over a billion dollars last year.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which is hilarious. That percentage should be around 40-50% if not more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And at one point it was pretty close to that in many parts of the West. For as much as American conservatives want to go back to the 50s socially, they don’t seem keen on bringing back the fiscal policies of the time…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And the people who want to go back to the 50s don't realise that the fiscal policies were what made that time great, not the social norms.

For example, the great thing wasn't that women had to do the housework, the great thing was that you only needed one worker per household to live a good life.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

Your dad thinks that people earn money by working for it. In other words, he's what would be a normal person in a socialist society.

All you have to do now is teach him what capitalism is.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

Yeah, it's hard for the human mind to comprehend how much money a billion dollars actually is and neither of the two major political parties in this country want to expand it to them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

The top 1% make roughly $600k per year, or probably more significantly (as not all rich people get "income"), a net worth of $11million according to this article

So yeah, maybe some doctors are in that category, but it's probably just the real big earners.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

mostly the actualy 0.5% to .05% which are the hundred millionaires and billionaires. MDs are close to 1%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yes that's why I called them "people absolutely in the top 1%"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Natural result of the massive and constant effort to make the Republican party seem less insane than it is that's undertaken by both political parties for some reason

[–] ferretfacefrankburns 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The medias are normalizing the pathological behaviours from the GOP. That false requirement to be unbiased in the face of the most serious breach to the constitution is what got us here.

Not all ideas are worth consideration and mainstream medias are failing to understand that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"failing to understand that" oh they're aware, it's just they're all large companies with motivations to keep the far right in power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True, but it’s not the secretive conspiratorial type of motivations, it’s the “make money; make numbers go up” motivations. Corporate news are owned by billionaires for a reason- naked power. Your rag might lose money but the spin they make can help everything else.

Honest, truthful reporting is, by nature, kind of boring to the average person. Hence all reporting has to be pumped up, juiced with outrage or horror or astounding details somehow. Making it inherently dishonest.

And there is no such thing as an objective point of view.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

trump gets eyes on the tv, and that exposes them to more ad revenue. all these grifters are helping as well, including resistance grifters of the "left.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I don't think that helps, but public opinion of the media is pretty low and fewer people are reading the news all the time, so I don't think that explains it.

The real problem is that the average person who doesn't think about politics much and assumes the truth is somewhere to the left of what Republicans are saying and to the right of the Dems constantly hears Dems like Schumer Jeffries Pelosi Hoyer etc. talk about how we need to strengthen the border and fund the police and other stupid shit like that, and it ends up making things like the suspension of asylum rights and giving billions of dollars of taxpayer money to for profit organizations seem like a reasonable middle ground.

e; ... buuut, I also feel compelled to point out that the one place I was able to find a recording of this town hall was through a "news" channel that was actually founded by this lawmaker, so the media environment is not not a problem I suppose

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Public opinion of the media going down is also driven by the right wing. Hell, I don't think the media minds it, given that most of those companies also have stakes in other shit that'll, at least in their minds, benefit from a corporatist government.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If you include social media algorithms as "news" the point still stands. TikTok, Facebook, Twitter all want right wing in power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

also propagandizing that there is an actual left or communist party in america too. usa is the most right wing WESTERN country out there. being puritanical around nudity is pretty telling too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Right, for the most part the Democrats tend to fit the definition of conservative better than the Republicans. The Republicans themselves more or less covering the spectrum of right wing. Although you do occasionally get a character like Nixon who policy wise in a lot of ways meets the definition of liberal better than most of today's Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The ~~Civil rights activist~~ SJW cringe compilations were literal Russian propaganda to get malicious and stupid people to reject the civil rights movement.