this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2025
273 points (97.6% liked)

World News

44307 readers
4974 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ukraine can’t win against Russia. It can try to limit the damages now and keep existing as a country or continue the war and risk being entirely invaded. That’s a risky proposition.

Unfortunately it is becoming evident that European countries will not join the war and therefore Ukraine is on its own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That Ukraine can't win is not a serious statement. Any country can win any war. That is clear from the human history. It's never only about size or strength. Only in recent history we can see that a poor country of Afghanistan, beat both the Soviet Union (and helped bring it's collapse) and the US.

By conceding everything to Russia, they will be entirely invaded within a few years. The concessions are directly made for that. People in the Russian government have stated that goal, their opinion leaders have stated that goal, Putin has started that goal, maybe not in those words, but more or less. The concessions are made for that, to keep a country weak, for an invasion. There is no other reason to have concessions like that.

Ukraine has no other option than to continue fighting. If they get no serious security guarantees, guarantees better than the Bucharest memorandum, they can not stop fighting and resisting as that would mean they will surely lose everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think Ukraine can win the war, I don’t know what to tell you… I respect freedom of opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you expect Afganistan to win over the US?

Yes Ukraine can win, without a doubt. It stopped Russian offensive, it continues to destroy Russian fossil fuel industry. The effort Russia extends right now to support their economy and military is not sustainable. If the west continues to support there is no doubt Ukraine will win. Without the support, is hard to say, but there is no doubt that continuing to fight will have a better result than to surrender right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The U.S. secured control of Afghanistan in about two months, as everybody expected. Ukraine can't win the war, whatever winning means...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have incredible but completely missed confidence in Russian military and Russia on general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You have incredible but unfortunately completely unrealistic confidence in the Ukrainian military, and in Ukraine in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine has stopped the worlds second army and made them deplete All weapons they had.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They have not stopped the world’s second army as Russia is making advances everyday. Besides, the only reason Ukraine has been able to resist this much so far is the extraordinary support it has received from both the United States and European countries; this level of support can’t last.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fact: Russia is not making advances every day.

Fact: Ukraine has not received extraordinary support. It has received old US weapons headed for the dumpsters and even these reluctantly. It has received less artillery ammo than Russia got from North Korea.

Fact: this level of support is easy to maintain and increase as US has sold far more weapons in this time to various countries, than has donated to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Fact: Russia is making advances every day.

Fact: Ukraine has received hundreds of billions of dollars of aid, intelligence sharing, internet satellite capabilities, training, coaching, diplomatic assistance, etc etc

Fact: No, it's not easy to maintain and increase as it costs a lot of money and people are not willing to keep assisting Ukraine for free indefinitely. Are you suggesting this can keep going on just because the USA has sold more weapons to other countries? Do you understand the difference between making a sale and donating something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Russia is not making advances right now. It has hardly taken any significant land in the last year. At significant cost both in lives and material.

Ukraine has received 30 year old weapons headed for expensive decommission. Americans counted those like they are new.

Us and America have barely increased their defense budgets. Russia is in full war economy and barely making any progress.

Russia can lose. It has lost in the past. Every country can lose and did. The notion that this autocratic corrupt country without any real economy, any real local product besides fossil fuels cannot lose is bizarre and totally insane. They cant even build their own modern army, because it relies too much on parts from the west.

You are very disingenuous with your comments. So I will end it here. I suspect you might be some kind of troll or tankie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

You’re the disingenuous one and you are completely out of touch with reality for suggesting Russia hasn’t made advances in a year. Just last week they took back Kursk…

You are pretending as if the US support for Ukraine is not big whereas no country came remotely close to providing as much support as the US did.

Of course, any country can lose, but given the current circumstances it is quite unlikely Russia is going to lose. Being convinced that Ukraine will win is bonkers.