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Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Russia already made this clear within the first month when negotiations happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

Annex Russia Donald, you fucking pussy.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Take it from the former US Ambassador to Russia

Concessions

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Ah the art of the deal. Impressive.

[–] NotSteve_ 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

… does Ukraine even get anything out of that? It doesn’t sound like Ukraine benefits in any way.

It’s like “here’s the deal: you just give me $1 million”

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The benefit is to survive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In the short term but without assistance from other countries Putin will be back to finish the job.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

If you are either and Putin comes back to finish the job, then European countries will need to decide if they want to go to war for Ukraine or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The benefit to Ukraine is that simply being at the table shows they're willing and Russia just keeps taking and taking, historically that ends one way.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The answer to that is giving Ukraine more and more support, weapons and material until Putin changed his tune. Or you play the sniveling coward and start negotiating these earnestly. We all know what path Donnie boy will take.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Americans do not want to provide more support, weapons and material anymore. European countries can take over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Real Americans do want to provide support. It’s the Russian asset and his smooth brain cult following who doesn’t.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Nope, most Americans do not want to send more money and arms to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

hes going to be laying more pressure on trump to force ukraine to give up.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The answer is for Europe to collectively get involved and annihilate every Russian within Ukraine's borders. Set up permanent EU bases on the Russian border. Offer a massive ransom and immunity for anyone in Russia who neutralizes Putin and his oligarchy. The mafia state must be destroyed, and a message needs to be sent to the US that Europe will come down on them hard if they attempt to use force on any allies. Fascists are bullies, and only learn their lesson through violence.

Trump does not control the military yet. He can replace leadership but I'd be willing to bet a majority of lifers in leadership would turn against him if he tried to invade Canada or Greenland within the next few years. Better to trigger a civil war now than allow the fascists to consolidate power and fill the military with loyalists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago

Yes but European countries have no appetite for war.

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